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Postby SUPERSUTT » Fri Jul 13, 2012 20:28 pm

hi i was thinking of starting to use protein drinks post and pre ride training at night i was wondering how many of you use them what type/brand and how often as my meal times are a bit shody working nights i dont eat at work in a 8 hour shift i only eat at 9am breakfast cereal and a main meal around 6pm with the family (fish rice pasta all the healthy good stuff) then head out about an hour or so after for a 2 or 3 hour ride to give me enought time to get home shower then head back into work for midnight.

I need to lose some belly and waist fat that wont shift no matter how hard or often i train.I'm 5' 11" tall and weight 11 stone 6 pounds.a body builder at work said my body could be going back starvation mode (every bite i eat my body needs to store as fat) cos of the lack of meals and protien intake is this true or not please help :?
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Re: protien drinks

Postby adm1 » Fri Jul 13, 2012 20:47 pm

Eat more. And more frequently. Sheesh - you're 6 foot tall and 11 stone 6 ?

Try skimmed milk or beer (preferably real ale) as a recovery drink.

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Postby SUPERSUTT » Fri Jul 13, 2012 21:05 pm

yes and i have a 32 inch waist the wife says im to thin . iknow i need to bulk up a bit mainly my arms legs and pigeon chest i cant have any beer as a recovery drink as im in work for midnight
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Re: protien drinks

Postby Barteos » Fri Jul 13, 2012 21:56 pm

IMO not eating for 8 hours is a big problem both from performance/recovery and weight loss point of view. Muscles don't get a steady supply of carbs and proteins and sugar levels go from one extreme to another.
Starving your body also encourages overeating.

I don't know what kind of job it is but I don't believe that you can't even have a (healthy) snack or a fruit smoothie every few hours. If I couldn't eat for the whole day I'd seriously considered changing a job (I know it's easier said than done nowadays).

Those little but more frequent snack should really make a difference.

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Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Sat Jul 14, 2012 07:30 am

Protein shakes are a supplement to a diet. They are not a diet by themselves.

You need to consume a LOT more food in a day. Your BB friend is right though,at that intake you probably are just storing fat,so when you begin eating more you will put a little weight on.

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Postby DCR00 » Sat Jul 14, 2012 15:20 pm

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:Protein shakes are a supplement to a diet. They are not a diet by themselves.

You need to consume a LOT more food in a day. Your BB friend is right though,at that intake you probably are just storing fat,so when you begin eating more you will put a little weight on.


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try a recovery shake instead of just protein. You need simple carbs to help with the protein absorption. Will have added minerals etc as well which will help.

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Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Sat Jul 14, 2012 16:24 pm

DCR00 wrote:
T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:Protein shakes are a supplement to a diet. They are not a diet by themselves.

You need to consume a LOT more food in a day. Your BB friend is right though,at that intake you probably are just storing fat,so when you begin eating more you will put a little weight on.


this

try a recovery shake instead of just protein. You need simple carbs to help with the protein absorption. Will have added minerals etc as well which will help.

ie: Make your own :D

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Postby Bigchris » Sat Jul 14, 2012 17:17 pm

My take on this is anything that is manmade, processed or in general pushed/advertised is more than likely a bad thing.

I try to swing away from protein shakes etc and go for the natural alternative for example a nice bag of mixed nuts and seeds and a nice variety of fruits, but don't just get your average lidl, aldi, supermarket fruits and nuts etc. Try and get the organic stuff fro. Holland and Barret or your local health store as these have alot higher levels of pretty much everything good for you in it, compared to your inbred seedless fruits, chewy nuts, damp seeds...crap that you get in supermarkets or anywhere you are pushed into going too.

And yes not eating for 8 hours is not good at all, there must be an alternative for you. Stick some snacks in your pocket or something.

Hope this 2 cents helps and sorry for any mistypes im on my phone

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Re: protien drinks

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:13 am

Yargh, 'tis a conspiracy. Damn cheap nuts.

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Re: protien drinks

Postby Rushmore » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:11 pm

Protein shakes make you fat....

Don't help much with muscle gain.. but aid recovery..

Try Steroids... I heard those work..
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Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Thu Jul 19, 2012 15:25 pm

Rushmore wrote:Protein shakes make you fat....

Don't help much with muscle gain.. but aid recovery..

Try Steroids... I heard those work..

Bullshit :D

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Re: protien drinks

Postby jakjtb » Fri Jul 20, 2012 22:37 pm

i have also been wondering about taking protein drinks after workouts or long rides (30 miles or so)

ive been asking on what i thought would be a welcoming forum, an unnamed body building forum, only to have people reply with super technical answers that i dont understand and then when i state i dont understand they just have a go and then say "sheesh, did the stickie threads not work anymore" bla bla, i read those things...they may as well be written in chinese.

im gonna just ask the personal trainer at the gym tomorrow
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Re: protien drinks

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Sat Jul 21, 2012 16:26 pm

jakjtb wrote:i have also been wondering about taking protein drinks after workouts or long rides (30 miles or so)

ive been asking on what i thought would be a welcoming forum, an unnamed body building forum, only to have people reply with super technical answers that i dont understand and then when i state i dont understand they just have a go and then say "sheesh, did the stickie threads not work anymore" bla bla, i read those things...they may as well be written in chinese.

im gonna just ask the personal trainer at the gym tomorrow

Asking for post ride nutrition advice on a bodybuilding forum is a bit silly isn't it?

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Postby jakjtb » Sat Jul 21, 2012 20:53 pm

nah it was post gym nutrition advice. nowt do with biking that one.
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Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Sat Jul 21, 2012 21:00 pm

jakjtb wrote:nah it was post gym nutrition advice. nowt do with biking that one.

Post the question/s here.

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Postby jakjtb » Sat Jul 21, 2012 21:01 pm

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:
jakjtb wrote:nah it was post gym nutrition advice. nowt do with biking that one.

Post the question/s here.


already asked the personal trainer in the gym and sorted it.
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Re: protien drinks

Postby GeeSpot » Mon Oct 22, 2012 09:54 am

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:Protein shakes are a supplement to a diet. They are not a diet by themselves.

You need to consume a LOT more food in a day. Your BB friend is right though,at that intake you probably are just storing fat,so when you begin eating more you will put a little weight on.


Agreed for the protein shakes.The more muscle you have on your body, the more calories your body uses up within a day. so if the rest of your diet stays the same as it usually is then you should add more muscle and lose some body fat. Don't make the mistake of going to Argos for the,, there are alot of cheaper places to buy it than there! Just go to your local health food store. it is usually around £6 -7 cheaper than at argos.you should not take any protein drink if you have any form or fammilly history of kidney problems though!If you want to increase your size and strength buy a creatine based powder like cyclone.

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Re: protien drinks

Postby sammysideways » Fri Oct 26, 2012 07:56 am

good info already on this thread, i do use shakes BUT i do believe you can get the correct amount of protein from a good well balanced diet. I only use shakes if my lifestyle doesnt allow me time/opportunity to get a meal after training.
Protein should be consumed regularly throughout the day but remember the body can only digest/handle so much of it within a day and eating to much protein is eating un-neccessary calories.

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Re: protien drinks

Postby kammybear » Mon Oct 29, 2012 19:48 pm

There's no harm in taking protein shakes. The whole point of them is that they are quick and convenient.

I use USN 100% Whey Protein. It has 6 types of protein so it digests slowly over time and I find it helps me with recovery as well. If you are going to use it, work hard and it'll help. No point taking it if you haven't earned it.

Whole point of shakes is that they are a quick, relatively cheap and convenient source of Protein. 2 scoops with 250ml of water or milk will give me the same amount of protein as roughly a 12oz steak. It won't cost me as much, take as long to cook and eat but give me 50g of the good stuff and only 250 calories compared to about 1000 in the steak!

I usually just have 1 scoop right after a workout to refeed my muscles. It works for me.

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Re: protien drinks

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Oct 29, 2012 20:20 pm

You don't need that much protein though, it's just insanity.


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