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Commuting incident.

Postby brianonyx » Sun Jul 15, 2012 20:05 pm

I couldn't bring myself to post this in commuting, where it should be. I tried but just couldn't bring myself to do it.

On Friday evening I was walking back from Chiswell street to Moorgate direction I walked past a boys in blue car that had pulled in someone and had the lights flashing.

Just up the road I heard a shout and saw a black Toyota Prius pulling across the path of a cyclist, riding a fixed, I think. The shout was the cyclist trying to warn the driver who clearly hadn't seen him. The inevitable happened and the cyclist hit the front of the turning Prius and at fairly slow speed rolled over the front of it and into the barriers at the side of the road.

Ah I thought, from 20ish metres away, maybe I should offer myself as a witness for this fellow cyclist!

Then the cyclist got up, clearly not too badly hurt and started shouting invective towards the stopped Prius driver. Along the lines of "you fffing **** you nearly killed me". Understandable and strengthened my resolve to offer condolences to the poor cyclist.

Then however the adrenaline didn't seem to wear off and the cyclist started to go a bit physcho. First of all he seemed to grab something from near his bike, a D lock I thought, and start to attack the car with it. Tried to smash the side window and the main window, but the implement bounced off, and had a good shot at the bodywork.

By this time a fair crowd was watching from a cautious distance and my sympathies were starting to move towards the car driver who was looking shocked and had clearly picked the wrong cyclist to accidentally hit.

Then the cyclist really let the adrenaline flow, pulled the door of the car open and whacked the driver in the mouth. It sounded horrible.

The car driver shouted something like " i'm really sorry to have hit you but you have just punched me in the face ", which I thought was a fairly accurate summary of events.

The cyclist then turned tail got on his bike and cycled off into the direction of the flashing lights. The Prius driver recovered his composure realised the police were there and ran after the cyclist waving at the police who promptly stopped the cyclist. The prius driver came back to get his car to return to the police who were 'talking' to the cyclist. He had blood pooring from his mouth.

Does make you think. At first I felt sorry for the cyclist then the driver and then over the weekend the cyclist who will most likely get an assault conviction, possibly lose their job.

I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby Secteur » Sun Jul 15, 2012 20:34 pm

Serves the stupid tosser (the cyclist) right if he gets a conviction.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby dw300 » Sun Jul 15, 2012 20:47 pm

The cyclist's reaction was stupid, you can't get away with assault. Far better to play dead, that'll really shake the car driver up and remove any possible rage that the car driver might have. ;)

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby BigMat » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:35 am

brianonyx wrote:I couldn't bring myself to post this in commuting, where it should be. I tried but just couldn't bring myself to do it.

On Friday evening I was walking back from Chiswell street to Moorgate direction I walked past a boys in blue car that had pulled in someone and had the lights flashing.

Just up the road I heard a shout and saw a black Toyota Prius pulling across the path of a cyclist, riding a fixed, I think. The shout was the cyclist trying to warn the driver who clearly hadn't seen him. The inevitable happened and the cyclist hit the front of the turning Prius and at fairly slow speed rolled over the front of it and into the barriers at the side of the road.

Ah I thought, from 20ish metres away, maybe I should offer myself as a witness for this fellow cyclist!

Then the cyclist got up, clearly not too badly hurt and started shouting invective towards the stopped Prius driver. Along the lines of "you fffing **** you nearly killed me". Understandable and strengthened my resolve to offer condolences to the poor cyclist.

Then however the adrenaline didn't seem to wear off and the cyclist started to go a bit physcho. First of all he seemed to grab something from near his bike, a D lock I thought, and start to attack the car with it. Tried to smash the side window and the main window, but the implement bounced off, and had a good shot at the bodywork.

By this time a fair crowd was watching from a cautious distance and my sympathies were starting to move towards the car driver who was looking shocked and had clearly picked the wrong cyclist to accidentally hit.

Then the cyclist really let the adrenaline flow, pulled the door of the car open and whacked the driver in the mouth. It sounded horrible.

The car driver shouted something like " i'm really sorry to have hit you but you have just punched me in the face ", which I thought was a fairly accurate summary of events.

The cyclist then turned tail got on his bike and cycled off into the direction of the flashing lights. The Prius driver recovered his composure realised the police were there and ran after the cyclist waving at the police who promptly stopped the cyclist. The prius driver came back to get his car to return to the police who were 'talking' to the cyclist. He had blood pooring from his mouth.

Does make you think. At first I felt sorry for the cyclist then the driver and then over the weekend the cyclist who will most likely get an assault conviction, possibly lose their job.

I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


I'm confused, Brian, I really am. Why couldn't you bring yourself to post in another sub-forum?! I'm not sure what "anger issues" you are referring to but I think perhaps the perceived dispute between "Commuting" and "Cake Stop" is more in your mind than in reality - a bit like the England / Scotland sporting rivalry perhaps?

Anyway, cyclist sounds like a tosser, adrenaline or not. We've all been there and most of us just brush ourselves down and thank the cycling gods if we are able to get up and cycle away...

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby Jonny_Trousers » Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:45 am

brianonyx wrote:I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


With all due respect, Brian, you're an idiot!

Not only is this one psycho cyclist's reaction completely unrepresentative of how 99.9% of cycle commuters would react, but - and it has been said time and time before - users of Commuting Chat had no interest in shutting down Cake Stop. One contributor who likes the sound of his own voice a little too much, backed by another lady who clearly has no interest in this forum beyond moaning about how it is run, began an utterly ridiculous crusade that the mods were foolish enough to listen to. End of!

The generalising nature of your statement quoted above is laughable.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby Paul E » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:01 pm

Tar and brush, yeah lets all get painting, fekking moron to make the assumption that all people in the commuting section would act like that muppet.
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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby kelsen » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:09 pm

Thanks for bringing this to our attention Brian. Did you get his forum name? Then we over at Commuting Chat can d-lock the f*cker for bringing our sub-forum into disrepute!

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby gabriel959 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:17 pm

Jonny_Trousers wrote:
brianonyx wrote:I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


With all due respect, Brian, you're an idiot!

Not only is this one psycho cyclist's reaction completely unrepresentative of how 99.9% of cycle commuters would react, but - and it has been said time and time before - users of Commuting Chat had no interest in shutting down Cake Stop. One contributor who likes the sound of his own voice a little too much, backed by another lady who clearly has no interest in this forum beyond moaning about how it is run, began an utterly ridiculous crusade that the mods were foolish enough to listen to. End of!

The generalising nature of your statement quoted above is laughable.


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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby Veronese68 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:21 pm

gabriel959 wrote:Let me guess DonDaddyD and Lost_in_thought ... correct? :lol:

Correct on the first, not the second. There was some woman that I'd never seen post before, or since. Velocerapture or some such, she got really very het up and wouldn't listen to reason.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby cyclingprop » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:31 pm

BigMat wrote: I'm not sure what "anger issues" you are referring to but I think perhaps the perceived dispute between "Commuting" and "Cake Stop" is more in your mind than in reality - a bit like the England / Scotland sporting rivalry perhaps?


Come on, admit it. Murray relinquished all rights to be termed British by losing. He's a Scot and we can proceed with plans to tow them out to the North Sea now.
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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby suzyb » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:32 pm

gabriel959 wrote:
Jonny_Trousers wrote:
brianonyx wrote:I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


With all due respect, Brian, you're an idiot!

Not only is this one psycho cyclist's reaction completely unrepresentative of how 99.9% of cycle commuters would react, but - and it has been said time and time before - users of Commuting Chat had no interest in shutting down Cake Stop. One contributor who likes the sound of his own voice a little too much, backed by another lady who clearly has no interest in this forum beyond moaning about how it is run, began an utterly ridiculous crusade that the mods were foolish enough to listen to. End of!

The generalising nature of your statement quoted above is laughable.


Let me guess DonDaddyD and Lost_in_thought ... correct? :lol:

afaik it wasn't LiT but you're half right.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby DonDaddyD » Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:34 pm

brian wrote:I couldn't bring myself to post this in commuting, where it should be. I tried but just couldn't bring myself to do it.


Drama queen.

brian wrote:I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


This is moronic.

JT wrote:users of Commuting Chat had no interest in shutting down Cake Stop. One contributor who likes the sound of his own voice a little too much


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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby brianonyx » Mon Jul 16, 2012 13:06 pm

gabriel959 wrote:
Jonny_Trousers wrote:
brianonyx wrote:I also thought maybe the commuter section should think more about their anger issues than shutting down cakeshop.


With all due respect, Brian, you're an idiot!

Not only is this one psycho cyclist's reaction completely unrepresentative of how 99.9% of cycle commuters would react, but - and it has been said time and time before - users of Commuting Chat had no interest in shutting down Cake Stop. One contributor who likes the sound of his own voice a little too much, backed by another lady who clearly has no interest in this forum beyond moaning about how it is run, began an utterly ridiculous crusade that the mods were foolish enough to listen to. End of!

The generalising nature of your statement quoted above is laughable.


Let me guess DonDaddyD and Lost_in_thought ... correct? :lol:


No idea really, the bit about the commuter forum was meant to be a gentle wind up.

The actions of the guy on the bike were pretty shocking really. I think the moral to me is that after any form of transport altercation, let the red adrenaline mist clear before talking/engaging with the other party.

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Re: Commuting incident.

Postby bails87 » Mon Jul 16, 2012 13:37 pm

brianonyx wrote: the cyclist who will most likely get an assault conviction, possibly lose their job.

Not if my experience is anything to go by. Clipped by a driver who overtook me acorss a humpback bridge, then swerved in towards me when a car came the other way. He thought I'd hit his car so jumped out, knocked me to the ground and punched me in the face several times. All caught on my head cam.

The police asked him to write a letter in which he said he regretted "that we bumped into each other". :roll:
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