F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Bakunin » Wed Jul 18, 2012 16:46 pm

Good thing is -- nobody missed Frank today.

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Pross » Wed Jul 18, 2012 21:01 pm

andyp wrote:
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disgruntledgoat wrote:So how does poisoning him get them out of that? They'll still have to pay him.


Breach of contract as presumably they'll have signed some anti-doping clause?


You'd have to be a weapons grade moron to sign a contract with such a clause when Bruyneel is involved.


He's a Schleck ;) I thought clauses like that were standard in cycling though?

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby mfin » Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:55 am

Has anyone got a link to some info on how its used to mask the micro-epo dosing part of a blood transfusion doping strategy?? (if this is the case, its been mentioned).
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Postby iainf72 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:58 am

mfin wrote:Has anyone got a link to some info on how its used to mask the micro-epo dosing part of a blood transfusion doping strategy?? (if this is the case, its been mentioned).


I doubt it's required. You'd just use EPO I/V and your body would flush it within 12 hours with a bit of water.
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Jez mon » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:11 am

iainf72 wrote:
mfin wrote:Has anyone got a link to some info on how its used to mask the micro-epo dosing part of a blood transfusion doping strategy?? (if this is the case, its been mentioned).


I doubt it's required. You'd just use EPO I/V and your body would flush it within 12 hours with a bit of water.


So generally, you'd take the risk that you wouldn't get tested in those 12 hours, not use a masking agent, and run away if the testers turned up too early?

Do you have any estimates for how much quicker the EPO would be flushed from the system with the diuretic?
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby disgruntledgoat » Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:22 am

Aren't diuretics usually used to mask steroids which take longer to leave the body? That's what Shane Warne told me he definitely wasn't up to anyway.
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby RichN95 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:57 pm

disgruntledgoat wrote:Aren't diuretics usually used to mask steroids which take longer to leave the body? That's what Shane Warne told me he definitely wasn't up to anyway.

Share Warne is a vain man who was overweight. I think it's almost certain he took a diet pill to try and lose a bit of flab. Steroids aren't going to be much use to a spin bower.
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby ddraver » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:04 pm

CN saying they ve signed for ASTANA

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Bakunin » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:41 pm

ddraver wrote:CN saying they ve signed for ASTANA

God 'elp!


Isn't that where Nibs is going?

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Rick Chasey » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:46 pm

Yup.

S'what you get for signing too early.

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby frenchfighter » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:49 pm

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schleck ... oming-year

2mill and 1.8mill a year they were getting paid. I hope that is not true as the sponsors were getting robbed!
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Le Commentateur » Thu Jul 19, 2012 16:57 pm

Jez mon wrote:
iainf72 wrote:
mfin wrote:Has anyone got a link to some info on how its used to mask the micro-epo dosing part of a blood transfusion doping strategy?? (if this is the case, its been mentioned).


I doubt it's required. You'd just use EPO I/V and your body would flush it within 12 hours with a bit of water.


So generally, you'd take the risk that you wouldn't get tested in those 12 hours, not use a masking agent, and run away if the testers turned up too early?

Do you have any estimates for how much quicker the EPO would be flushed from the system with the diuretic?

They use diruetics to change the pH value of urine and this makes it less able to absorb the trace elements of the rocket fuel so that tests suggest the athlete is clean. That's why its called a masking agent.
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Le Commentateur » Thu Jul 19, 2012 17:01 pm

disgruntledgoat wrote:Aren't diuretics usually used to mask steroids which take longer to leave the body? That's what Shane Warne told me he definitely wasn't up to anyway.

Yes. [see above]

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby frenchfighter » Thu Jul 19, 2012 20:35 pm

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Monty Zoncolan » Fri Jul 20, 2012 09:52 am

Reports via Twitter now saying that Astana only want Andy and made it clear Frank wasn't part of the plan.

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby frenchfighter » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:14 am

Yeah. Pretty funny:

"They must understand that the Schleck duo can be a handicap for a team. Given their refusal to separate, we ended talks." (Vino)
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Timoid. » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:42 am

I'm actually a fan of Andy Schleck, but the two of them as unit just make me think of these guys:

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Maybe Vino put something in Frank's cool aid to get out of having to sign him.

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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby ddraver » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:51 am

frenchfighter wrote:Yeah. Pretty funny:

"They must understand that the Schleck duo can be a handicap for a team. Given their refusal to separate, we ended talks." (Vino)


Do you know I reckon that's the first time they ll have ever been told that...It's going to be interesting to see what happens now that their Sugar Daddy is screwed!
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby iainf72 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 14:26 pm

B sample also positive
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Re: F Schleck tests positive for diuretic

Postby Luckao » Fri Jul 20, 2012 14:34 pm

Nevermind. A Vuelta on his own could be the making of Andy.


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