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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby oodboo » Mon Aug 06, 2012 09:19 am

If something has to go to make room for more mtb then maybe we could get rid of power walking, that's got to be the gayest event going.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Aug 06, 2012 09:41 am

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby VWsurfbum » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:13 am

on that BBC show, they asked Tracey Mosely abbout getting DH into the Olympics, and her response was something like, not all countries would be able to host it, so its because of that and some other bits

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby oodboo » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:20 am

I can't see us hosting the winter olympics but that doesn't mean it gets cancelled.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby VWsurfbum » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:21 am

yeah but thats a different event entirely!
Milton Keynes has a snow dome, i'm sure they could host it?

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby njee20 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:23 am

I can't see us hosting the winter olympics but that doesn't mean it gets cancelled.


Aye, that's something different entirely! I think it's a valid point, a DH course requires a lot of elevation that plenty of places just wouldn't be able to provide.

MTB is so far down the list of IOC priorities that I can't see any extra disciplines getting included! Bit of a shame, but hey ho.

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:29 am

As much as I love watching DH racing, I honestly couldn't back anyone trying to add it to the Olympics as it is now.
There's too many riders, even those within the top 10 riders in the world who are self-admittedly "crap at pedalling".
I'm sorry, but if you're a pro athlete at the top of your game, then that's just pathetic. They will never win by any means except dumb luck or fluke, against those riders who are pushing themselves in all aspects of the sport.
It's shameful, frankly, and I'm not surprised that any governing body fails to see it as a serious sport.

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby oodboo » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:48 am

YeehaaMcgee wrote:As much as I love watching DH racing, I honestly couldn't back anyone trying to add it to the Olympics as it is now.

Too much partying and, smuggling aside, not enough drugs controversy for it to be taken seriously.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby ddraver » Thu Aug 09, 2012 15:10 pm

Believe it or not, it's only really us Britz that hold DH in such high regard, Globally, XC is a much bigger draw. Many more spectators went to Champery for the XC than the DH last year*. The Trouble is it's so difficult to film and tbh, looks so crap even when it is filmed that it's boring to watch on Telly.

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby Majski » Thu Aug 09, 2012 16:07 pm

oodboo wrote:If something has to go to make room for more mtb then maybe we could get rid of power walking, that's got to be the gayest event going.


Dressage is the gayest

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby lostboysaint » Thu Aug 09, 2012 16:08 pm

Majski wrote:
oodboo wrote:If something has to go to make room for more mtb then maybe we could get rid of power walking, that's got to be the gayest event going.


Dressage is the gayest


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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby paul.skibum » Fri Aug 10, 2012 03:12 am

njee20 wrote:
I can't see us hosting the winter olympics but that doesn't mean it gets cancelled.


Aye, that's something different entirely! I think it's a valid point, a DH course requires a lot of elevation that plenty of places just wouldn't be able to provide.

MTB is so far down the list of IOC priorities that I can't see any extra disciplines getting included! Bit of a shame, but hey ho.


Some facebook site I subscribe to asked about getting surfing into the olympics - I said the same thing basically, not every country can host a surf event for the olympics so it cannot be in the olympics - mtb xc sure everyone can find terrain to host a race, DH not so much, surfing - nope.

Same as winter olympics - UK cant host winter games as with the best will in the world scotland aint gonna have the snow or elevation to host most events so we wont bother.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby mac man » Sun Aug 12, 2012 13:50 pm

Other than Holland, what other countries that could realistically host an Olympic Games would not be able to host a DH event?

I see Qatar and Dubai are vying for 2024. No idea if the have many mountains but it seems a bloody hot place to be holding an Olympics in the 1st place!!.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby cyco2 » Sun Aug 12, 2012 19:43 pm

Fantastic course and fantastic racing. I think I could manage a lap or two cause it does look so hard.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby njee20 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 08:18 am

Other than Holland, what other countries that could realistically host an Olympic Games would not be able to host a DH event?


Olympics are hosted by cities, not countries. Plenty of cities with no mountains, like London... Not gonna get Fort William as a venue for a London Games!

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby mac man » Mon Aug 13, 2012 08:54 am

njee20 wrote:
Other than Holland, what other countries that could realistically host an Olympic Games would not be able to host a DH event?


Olympics are hosted by cities, not countries. Plenty of cities with no mountains, like London... Not gonna get Fort William as a venue for a London Games!


Hmmmm.... didn't know Weymouth was in London ;-)
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby njee20 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 09:03 am

Wow, are we still gonna go through this!

One of the main things London brought was the tight spread of venues, the IOC are really hot on such things. Sailing was in the closest appropriate venue, which was Weymouth. There was also competition there for most of the 2 weeks of the games, not two 5 minute races like DH would be. Plus... Weymouth is a wee bit closer than Fort William!

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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby oodboo » Mon Aug 13, 2012 09:09 am

There were a couple of football matches held in Newcastle. St James Park - closest appropriate venue?
Six 90 minute matches - not a lot really.

njee20 - your argument is flawed.
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby IT66T » Mon Aug 13, 2012 09:31 am

Well i reckon if they took the power walking out of the games and rhytmic gymnastics then wed have a fair sized gap for more xc and we need more xc riders out their but i guess that's just not going to happen as we just don't get the support in this country .
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Re: MTB in the olympics.

Postby njee20 » Mon Aug 13, 2012 09:40 am

There were a couple of football matches held in Newcastle. St James Park - closest appropriate venue?
Six 90 minute matches - not a lot really.


Yes, a few of the matches for the heats, all of the big matches held at Wembley. There were a few reasons for this - most notably because you need a lot of venues for the football because of all the matches - hence it starting before the opening ceremony. You need special Olympic Route Network designation (primary and secondary) to each venue. If you do that for 6 London venues you end up shutting down the whole of London even more than they already did, purely to host one (insignificant) event.

I assure you it's not a flawed argument, it's not even an argument, it's a fact, I worked on the logistics for the Olympics a few years ago.


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