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Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:29 am

Hey guys, I'm Jak, 23, and pretty new to biking...

So im going to get back to training a few times a week, keep my self in shape and what not, but as i want to improve my game on the bike, i would like to know what areas you guys target, and how you go about doin it, so im open to advice that i can take into consideration and put into pace in my new routine........

so fire away people :)

Jak

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby 16mm » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:00 pm

Find your weaknesses and target those, assuming you're generally OK.
Although you're 20 stone no point targeting climbing quite yet.
Or taget what you enjoy. If you're riding for fun, why do stuff you don't like?

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:23 pm

Just ride. You'll get fitter the more you ride.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sat Sep 01, 2012 13:04 pm

i was after more specific advice, as im fairly fitness savy already.... just wanted to know what areas you guys train.. ect

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sat Sep 01, 2012 13:17 pm

bwtmc wrote:i want to improve my game on the bike

Like I said before, just ride more.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sat Sep 01, 2012 13:29 pm

I bike to work and back every day, but the only time i get to train is going to be at 5.30am-6.30am i cant go for a ride then, so i want to include things in my workout that will help me on the bike.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sat Sep 01, 2012 16:22 pm

What do you mean when you say you only get to train between 5:30 and 6:30?
Besides that, I still say, just ride more. There's not much more to it than that unless you're specifically aiming to race, or to do endurance events and such. In which case you'de need to ride more, but faster, or ride for longer.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sat Sep 01, 2012 17:03 pm

I mean im too busy atm, and there is no where close enough i can ride with only a hour to spare in the mornings. I want to train in the morns, going running, doing push-ups, sit ups ect... and i just thought i would be good to kill two birds with one stone, in that i might be able to train certain muscle groups that would help with DH/XC type stuff.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sat Sep 01, 2012 17:41 pm

Too busy?
But you've just said you have an hour where you can do something each morning.

I have a feeling you may need to start again, from the top.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sat Sep 01, 2012 17:52 pm

Ok right, im to busy in the day/night to train, so my intention is to train for a hour in the morns before work.. 3 times a week, i want to include things in there that will help me on the bike....

Hope this is clearer.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Sat Sep 01, 2012 17:57 pm

Ok. So....
Ride your bike. Blast it round a route for an hour or something.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby bwtmc » Sun Sep 02, 2012 08:17 am

i still think your missing the point here, thanks tho... think ill go else where for advice.


Cheers
Jak

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby whyamihere » Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:25 am

Pretty sure you're missing the point...

The best way to get better at riding your bike is to ride your bike. That's it.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby njee20 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:08 pm

Yep, they're right. Just ride more. 5:30 sounds like a great time to ride, empty roads.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby 16mm » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:25 pm

bwtmc wrote:i was after more specific advice, as im fairly fitness savy already.... just wanted to know what areas you guys train.. ect


I train my weaknesses. Other people I know try to improve what they're already good at.
What are you trying to achieve? Train for that.
Don't follow someone elses program.
Here is some advice. Ride as fast as you can for the whole ride, door to door, whatever the route or distance.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby njee20 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:35 pm

Here is some advice. Ride as fast as you can for the whole ride, door to door, whatever the route or distance.


It's not particularly good advice, but to be fair you didn't say it was!

If you're pushed for time interval training is likely to be the way to go, just depends what you want to achieve, and as people have said, you train your weaknesses. If you're new to riding, just ride your bike, doing interval training with little base fitness is unlikely to yield much success.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby 16mm » Mon Sep 03, 2012 15:12 pm

njee20 wrote:
Here is some advice. Ride as fast as you can for the whole ride, door to door, whatever the route or distance.


It's not particularly good advice, but to be fair you didn't say it was!


I dunno, a 1hr ride as fast as you can will be a threshold session. 2 or 3 hrs as fast as you can will be tempo rides, all awesome for base fitness.
These work for me.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby njee20 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 15:17 pm

It's not the way to make the most of the time you have though. Structured training would yield better results.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby 16mm » Mon Sep 03, 2012 16:05 pm

njee20 wrote:It's not the way to make the most of the time you have though. Structured training would yield better results.


It is structured. I find I can sprint and ride fast with no problems. My weakness is endurace for events between 2-3 hours. I've got a good finish if I can get to the end.

Most of my riding is tempo riding, and it allows me to be able to cruise along in a bunch with much less effort (easier breathing, lower HR). I do other sessions, but these are ~50%.

This is what I meant by targeting weaknesses. This is the wrong training for Jack and probably everyones else reading this, but he did demand advice.

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Re: Conditioning/Training

Postby njee20 » Mon Sep 03, 2012 16:10 pm

Riding around 'as fast as you can' everywhere won't do much for your endurance though. 15 minute sub-FTP intervals (for example) would be better for your endurance as they'll increase your FTP more than hooning around quite a lot below your FTP.


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