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Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:01 am

For those that never saw the Horizon program about 6 weeks ago this is a diet where you eat what you want on one day and fast (for blokes < 600 cals) on the next. The 5/2 variant is you eat for 5 days and fast for 2. It may still be on iPlayer.

I have been doing the 5/2 variety for just over 3 weeks (4 lots of fasting and 3 eating) as of this morning (the end of a two day fasting session) I have lost 13lbs!! My weight will of course go up over the next 5 days as I eat normally but the trend is very much downward but peak to peak is probably better than 8LBs.

As its summer (ish) down in the South West their has been lots going on and I have been out for meals/BBQs on 6 occasions since I started (and eaten what i wanted with no thought about diet content or quantity) I have also carried on going to the pub at weekends.

The bit about this diet that helps me is the fasting days when you fancy a snack their is always an end in sight and it seems much easier to stick with it than when I have been on a traditional diet. You can also pick your fasting days, I do Mon/Tue or Tue/wed - depending on what is happening that week. You can also split the days but I think that is less good (their are health benefits to the diet other than weight loss - watch the prog).

Of course getting out on my bike and beasting myself for about 4-6 hours a week also helps knock of the weight.

thought one or two of you might be interested.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sfichele » Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:11 am

What was your starting weight? And can you be sure you've lost fat as opposed to muscle+fat?

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 08:44 am

16st 7lbs

sfichele wrote:And can you be sure you've lost fat as opposed to muscle+fat?


Is that some sort of trick question - of course I can't.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby mcnultycop » Wed Sep 05, 2012 17:04 pm

You can if you get your body fat measured. I do that at the gym every couple of weeks. You can get home devices to do it, though (although I just stick a quid in the gym machine, but they have them at supermarkets and Boots if you aren't a member of a gym).

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Sep 05, 2012 20:02 pm

What... How... eh?
How do they measure your bodyfat at Boots? Surely it's a guess at best?

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby supersonic » Wed Sep 05, 2012 20:04 pm

They have a machine that passes a current through the body and measures the resistance of the fat!

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Sep 05, 2012 20:10 pm

supersonic wrote:They have a machine that passes a current through the body and measures the resistance of the fat!

Really? Sounds erotic!
Might go get that done over lunch tomorrow. Do they offer a happy ending?

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 20:47 pm

Sorry for short answer - what i should have said "of course I can't because these machines are shite" They are very sensitive to hydration levels and also a crap at determining where fat is - I am interested in losing fat from my belly (and neck). They are good at showing trends as long as you test in the same conditions

However, the benchmark I use when dieting is how many holes do I use on my belt...

I really don't try to over-think it as some people do.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:33 pm

sandy771 wrote:I am interested in losing fat from my belly (and neck).

Fat neck? I've never heard of that before.
Anyway, I've been led to believe you can;t really lose weight from a specific part of your body, it all just kind of generally reduces. The reason your belly is the last to shrink is because there's a whole load more fat there than, say, your scalp.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby Chunkers1980 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:40 pm

So bums and tums classes are no good?

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:49 pm

YeehaaMcgee wrote:
sandy771 wrote:I am interested in losing fat from my belly (and neck).

Fat neck? I've never heard of that before.
Anyway, I've been led to believe you can;t really lose weight from a specific part of your body, it all just kind of generally reduces. The reason your belly is the last to shrink is because there's a whole load more fat there than, say, your scalp.


Really? I generally go up or down a few collar sizes as my weight changes.

Agree, I can't choose where I want to lose the weight from, although you can work to tone differnet areas. But in my case their is naff all weight on my legs and arms (but quite a lot of muscle) and far too much around my belly.

As I said i dont over think it and worry about fat percentages, BMI's etc. When I can see my knob without sucking in my belly i'll be happy.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:58 pm

Chunkers1980 wrote:So bums and tums classes are no good?


Yes. Good rule of thumb is that any dietary kind of thing aimed at women, will be complete and total, utter borlorx.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby andhr » Wed Sep 05, 2012 22:20 pm

YeehaaMcgee wrote:
Chunkers1980 wrote:So bums and tums classes are no good?


Yes. Good rule of thumb is that any dietary kind of thing aimed at women, will be complete and total, utter borlorx.


New diet fad amongst the women at work is 'raspberry ketone', apparently raspberries make you thin... right!

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby miss notax » Thu Sep 06, 2012 15:28 pm

One of my (male!) work colleagues is doing the 5/2 diet - seems like a good way to have a really grumpy and miserable Monday and Tuesday to me :wink:

I don't see what's wrong with the rather old fashioned approach of just eating sensibly (ie massive take-away one day = salad and a bit less to eat the next) plus exercise.... But then again I am cynical of all these diets. I just eat what I want and go on a really long bike ride to burn it all off.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 15:52 pm

Miss N

I have not seen any pics of you but I expect that my breasts are bigger than yours, probably because you have the will power and metabolism to eat sensibly and i don't.

I wish I could eat sensibly but if 50+ years has taught me one thing - it's that I can't. I eat out a lot (and party) quite hard so biking is my way of balancing the equation, it enables me to enjoy life. However I can do with losing a few stone, a target of 13-14 would be ideal, it will make the biking more fun and of course has lots of other health benefits. I wish I could do what my wife does and just eat (mostly about the same as me) and be near my ideal weight (in her case 9st) but I can't.

Anyway about to go fill my camelback for tonights ride (about 2.5 hours - third time out this week).

Don't know why he is grumpy - I actually find the 2 days of dieting quite nice, especially if they follow a heavy weekend. We are all different though.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Sep 06, 2012 17:25 pm

sandy771 wrote: my breasts are bigger
I eat out a lot
quite hard
has lots of other health benefits.
I wish I could do what my wife does
in her
tonights ride (about 2.5 hours - third time out this week).

Don't know why he is grumpy.


Reading between the lines here seems like a new 50 shades phenomenon :shock: :lol:


Aaaaaaaanyhooooo.
If you have the willpower to fast for two days, then you have the willpower to just eat a little less each day, and ride more.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby brooksie50 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 18:55 pm

YeehaaMcgee wrote:
sandy771 wrote: my breasts are bigger
I eat out a lot
quite hard
has lots of other health benefits.
I wish I could do what my wife does
in her
tonights ride (about 2.5 hours - third time out this week).

Don't know why he is grumpy.


Reading between the lines here seems like a new 50 shades phenomenon :shock: :lol:


Aaaaaaaanyhooooo.
If you have the willpower to fast for two days, then you have the willpower to just eat a little less each day, and ride more.



:D :D

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 21:51 pm

YeehaaMcgee wrote:
sandy771 wrote: my breasts are bigger
I eat out a lot
quite hard
has lots of other health benefits.
I wish I could do what my wife does
in her
tonights ride (about 2.5 hours - third time out this week).

Don't know why he is grumpy.


Reading between the lines here seems like a new 50 shades phenomenon :shock: :lol:


:)

YeehaaMcgee wrote:
Aaaaaaaanyhooooo.
If you have the willpower to fast for two days, then you have the willpower to just eat a little less each day, and ride more.


no I don't

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Sep 06, 2012 22:08 pm

Yes, you do. Eating a little less each day is no harder (in fact, probably a lot easier) than eating virtually nothing for two days.
Just grit your teeth and get to it.

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Re: Alternate day, 5/2 diet

Postby sandy771 » Thu Sep 06, 2012 22:18 pm

No I can't - I have been trying to do that for 30 odd years.

Normal dieting means a change of lifestyle for the next 6/12 months, there is no realistic end in sight so when people fail, as they do, they usually give up. This diet works because when I feel like a snack on my fasting day (well 500 cal day) I don't because I think that tomorrow or worst case the day after I am off the diet and can have what ever I want for the next 5 days.

It's prob hard to fathom if you have never had a weight problem.


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