Chief Whip is rude to policemen

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby veloevol » Tue Sep 25, 2012 13:55 pm

I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Ian.B » Tue Sep 25, 2012 21:13 pm

veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA


Sorry, but I'm with the policeman on this one. This is on a par with that bloke on BBC Essex.

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Origamist » Tue Sep 25, 2012 21:42 pm

Ian.B wrote:
veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA


Sorry, but I'm with the policeman on this one. This is on a par with that bloke on BBC Essex.


Eh? Looks like a buzz from an advanced police driver who should have known better. Why not use the full width of the bus lane to execute the undertake?

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Greg66 Tri v2.0 » Tue Sep 25, 2012 22:10 pm

Origamist wrote:
Ian.B wrote:
veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA


Sorry, but I'm with the policeman on this one. This is on a par with that bloke on BBC Essex.


Eh? Looks like a buzz from an advanced police driver who should have known better. Why not use the full width of the bus lane to execute the undertake?


I can't work out whether headcams make things seem further away than they are, but that didn't look like a close buzz to me. Had I been the cyclist in the r/h lane aiming to go right at the lights, I would have ridden further over to the right so as not to occupy the whole of the lane. But that's just me.

Cop was an utter dick when confronted though.
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby jejv » Tue Sep 25, 2012 22:19 pm

Origamist wrote:
Ian.B wrote:
veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA


Sorry, but I'm with the policeman on this one. This is on a par with that bloke on BBC Essex.


Eh? Looks like a buzz from an advanced police driver who should have known better. Why not use the full width of the bus lane to execute the undertake?

Yes, that officer is clearly a Pleb.

An unnecessary cut up from the inside. Dangerous driving. No blues & twos. Then blues & twos are not an excuse.

Maybe the officer was having a bad day. But when the Police officer is confronted with his dangerous driving, the officer goes confrontational. Which I guess mostly works for the police, and is how "normal" people behave.

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby jejv » Tue Sep 25, 2012 22:35 pm

andyb78 wrote:Whilst it's not really news, what's more important now is that either the Chief Whip of the Cons has lied to the PM, or we have an officer from SO6 (or officers, given that there's corroborated accounts in at least two other police pocket note books) who's lying about the incident and recorded it inaccurately in something that could potentially be legal documentation.. he did get warned under S5 of the Public Order Act too apparently...

Not sure whether it's grounds for a sacking, but it does paint him in rather poor light.

Someone lied to Dave ? Shocking!! A Whip even !!
It would be inappropriate for anyone - for example, a party whip - to say anything that might prejudice any of the Criminal trials of any of Dave's associates.
Are you suggesting that some police officers may not always tell the truth ?!?
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby rjsterry » Tue Sep 25, 2012 22:51 pm

Greg66 wrote:
Origamist wrote:
Ian.B wrote:
veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA


Sorry, but I'm with the policeman on this one. This is on a par with that bloke on BBC Essex.


Eh? Looks like a buzz from an advanced police driver who should have known better. Why not use the full width of the bus lane to execute the undertake?


I can't work out whether headcams make things seem further away than they are, but that didn't look like a close buzz to me. Had I been the cyclist in the r/h lane aiming to go right at the lights, I would have ridden further over to the right so as not to occupy the whole of the lane. But that's just me.

Cop was an utter dick when confronted though.


Like the way he pulled away without looking, after the discussion, too.
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Rick Chasey » Wed Sep 26, 2012 06:49 am

They're police. Whaddya expect?

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Origamist » Wed Sep 26, 2012 07:13 am

Greg66 wrote:
Origamist wrote:Eh? Looks like a buzz from an advanced police driver who should have known better. Why not use the full width of the bus lane to execute the undertake?


I can't work out whether headcams make things seem further away than they are, but that didn't look like a close buzz to me. Had I been the cyclist in the r/h lane aiming to go right at the lights, I would have ridden further over to the right so as not to occupy the whole of the lane. But that's just me.

Cop was an utter dick when confronted though.


Estimating passing distances from camera film is difficult (different cameras, lenses, positions, angles, field of view etc), but that's not going to stop me...I'd say between 1 and 2 feet max, given that the Range Rover was cutting in.

Bails 87 of this forum has posted some pics on the last page of the "Got Some helmet cam footage of YOUR commute" which gives an indicative representation of overtaking distances at set measurements.

I'm also unsure why the police driver is not wearing a seatbelt.

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby EKE_38BPM » Wed Sep 26, 2012 07:29 am

I was reading an article in The Telegraph about this and guess what comes up?

Why wasn't he (Andrew Mitchell) wearing a helmet?
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby walkingbootweather » Wed Sep 26, 2012 09:13 am

EKE_38BPM wrote:Why wasn't he (Andrew Mitchell) wearing a helmet?


I'm sure that if asked he'd be able to explain that he wasn't in fact not wearing the headwear attributed to him. :roll:
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Drfabulous0 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:40 am

Wallace1492 wrote:I think the incident is trivial. However, it is the apparant lieing of the Chief Whip that concerns me. If he just fessed up at the time, and apologised, there would be no more. It is the fact that he is weaseling and saying he did not use the words attributed to him that stinks, he does not say what the words are and does not in fact answer the questions asked. He therefore seems to be lieing, and that my friends is the nub of what the issue is. If helies for something this apprantly trivial, he may well do so in other more serious matters.

See the following for where a little lie can lead: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7967982.stm


I generally assume anything said by a Tory MP to be a lie, that way I am rarely disappointed.

Actually make that any MP.

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby JamesB5446 » Wed Sep 26, 2012 18:20 pm

Drfabulous0 wrote:I generally assume anything said by a Tory MP to be a lie, that way I am rarely disappointed.

As do I. And anything said by the Met. So I'm torn on this one.

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby bails87 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 06:24 am

If anyone still hasn't seen it, the police report in ful is here.
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And the headcam distances are here: viewtopic.php?f=40076&t=12609612&start=1534
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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Origamist » Thu Oct 04, 2012 08:45 am

veloevol wrote:I found you can have dealings with the police without resorting to swearing.

http://youtu.be/rMphhd8QCwA



Quiet news day:

Cyclist ‘cut up’ by police driver turns anger into a YouTube hit
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/c ... 96791.html

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby thelawnet » Wed Oct 17, 2012 17:21 pm

They are still whining on about this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... toast.html

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby Rick Chasey » Wed Oct 17, 2012 17:21 pm

Just saw this on the 6 o'clock.


Christ on a bike give it up!

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Re: Chief Whip is rude to policemen

Postby asquithea » Wed Oct 17, 2012 21:15 pm

Didn't this happen like a month ago?

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Postby TailWindHome » Fri Oct 19, 2012 19:38 pm

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Postby bails87 » Fri Oct 19, 2012 19:52 pm

Perfectly timed to distract the papers from Osborne being a c**t on a train. They hung onto him until him going was useful.
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