Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

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Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby whitebait01 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 15:46 pm

Hello,

Looking for a new wheelset for commuting in London and maybe the odd bit of light(ish) touring. I'm about 90kg and will be riding all year round. I was originally thinking Mavic Open Pros on 105s or Ultegra, then noticed the CXP33s on Rose, had a bit of a read and these appear to be thought better.

I've had a look on Rose Bikes and spotted the following:

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/road ... aid:339616

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/article/road ... aid:401795

Are Ultegra hubs worth the extra cash? Has anyone bought a rose wheelset? Are they well-built? The prices look great compared to anything available over here...

Cheers!
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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby schweiz » Tue Oct 02, 2012 18:37 pm

I can't comment on how Rose build wheels but I use CXP33/Ultegra (32h 3x) as my everyday/commuting wheelset and they are great despite the abuse they get (saying that, the roads are pretty good here!)

Rose have built their business by selling good stuff cheap rather than cheap stuff cheap so I'd have no worries buying from them.

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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby Bobbinogs » Tue Oct 02, 2012 19:35 pm

105 hubs are very nice, imo, and offer good performance at a very good price. Not in the same league as Ultegra (RS80, etc.) but there you go, can't have everything. If I was commuting then 105 would hit the spot.

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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Tue Oct 02, 2012 19:57 pm

Ultegra hubs are at a slashed price on CRC... then all you need is someone to build them... 8)

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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby whitebait01 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:45 pm

Chaps, thanks for the advice!

General consensus seems to be that 105 hubs are definitely good enough for commuting...

Ugo, I'll think on about getting some built over here, but having done a bit of research on returns to Germany, they appear to pay for RMAs... Still way more hassle if it came to it of course. I've got a while before payday so will continue to cogitate.

In the meantime, what are the main differences/defining features of CXP33s and Open Pros? Bearing in mind I weigh about 90kg, ride around good old potholed London and would rather they didn't bend and flex on climbs, which'd be preferable?
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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby gabriel959 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 14:57 pm

I have had Open Pros on 105s for a few months now on my commuter and they have been great. I am also 90kg.
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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Thu Oct 04, 2012 16:13 pm

whitebait01 wrote:Chaps, thanks for the advice!

General consensus seems to be that 105 hubs are definitely good enough for commuting...

Ugo, I'll think on about getting some built over here, but having done a bit of research on returns to Germany, they appear to pay for RMAs... Still way more hassle if it came to it of course. I've got a while before payday so will continue to cogitate.

In the meantime, what are the main differences/defining features of CXP33s and Open Pros? Bearing in mind I weigh about 90kg, ride around good old potholed London and would rather they didn't bend and flex on climbs, which'd be preferable?


Rims bend and flex when they are badly built... otherwise they don't. Superlight spokes are not suited to rear wheels, but some keep using them... that's the result

PS: I also like to think that my wheels are built better than those sold by Rose, that is vanity of course, as I have never seen them

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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby Mike67 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 18:17 pm

whitebait01 wrote:Chaps, thanks for the advice!

In the meantime, what are the main differences/defining features of CXP33s and Open Pros? Bearing in mind I weigh about 90kg, ride around good old potholed London and would rather they didn't bend and flex on climbs, which'd be preferable?


Open pros are a more square section, shallow, traditional type rim. CXP33 are more deep section, v shape rim ( hesitate to say aero as they are not that deep).

Open pro is lighter than the CXP, both are pretty strong when built right.

I run both on my cross bike...Open pro front with 105 hub and CXP33 rear with Ultegra hub.

SO far they've survived 3 seasons of cross racing, off road training, numerous outings with the kids and the Three Peaks CX race last weekend....so plenty durable enough for every day use I should think.
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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby whitebait01 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:21 am

Cheers!

So if there's no aero benefit to the CXP33s and the Open Pros are ever so slightly lighter, which is the best bet for commuting? What are the actual benefits of each rim?
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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby phy2sll2 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:04 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:Ultegra hubs are at a slashed price on CRC... then all you need is someone to build them... 8)


+1 for commissioning Paolo to build you a set.

My A23s on Novatecs running very nicely. 8)

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Re: Mavic CXP33/105s from Rose Bikes?

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:23 am

whitebait01 wrote:Cheers!

So if there's no aero benefit to the CXP33s and the Open Pros are ever so slightly lighter, which is the best bet for commuting? What are the actual benefits of each rim?


The Open PRO don't take much tension, so they will in time need tweaking, especially Campagnolo fitted ones, unless one uses 32 plain gauge spokes and a good slab of spoke prep... the CXP 33 take more tension and build a set which is less maintenance... but they have no eyelets, so in principle prone to cracks at the hole... in practice it is not a problem, typically.
On balance, I would advise the Open PRO for lighter riders (saying under 90 Kg) and maybe a V rim for those a bit heavier.
Potholes are not a problem, as a well built wheel can take potholes, it's more an issue for the tyres... 25-28 mm tyres will give you more confidence and fewer problems on pothole littered roads. I find London is not too bad, as you head out inthe countryside around London, roads are worse.
If I had to advise a rim for you, it would be neither of those, but either Ambrosio Excellence or DT Swiss 465... they take the best of both words, being extremely robust, yet only a few grams heavier than an Open PRO.


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