Where did you ride today?

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Andy 1974 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 22:10 pm

Took a ride up to the Earlsburn Wind Farm,which is past the Carron Valley trails,easy enough ride and brilliant views.

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Sleipnir's Master » Sun Sep 30, 2012 22:30 pm

Well last week i did the "Borders Circle"
Dalkeith to middletion down the B7007 (which is stunning i may add) to innerleithen couple of pasties and a look through Alpine bikes later, i headed to Glentress. Done the 9km black route juddddddddered my self to death on solid mud with more boulders than a fat womans ass. From there onto Peebles and another pastie later onward to eddleston Butttttt half way to eddleston some fool was sitting right behined me in his car (at this time it was dark so all i could see was lights). So i pulled over to let them pass, turns out it was the fuzz/police stoping to ask me why i wasn't wearing a yellow bib! i already have 2 rear lights and reflection strips on the jacket. Anyway on from eddleston past the leadburn, through howgate, roslin, bonnyrig back to dalkeith! 55miles

http://static.panoramio.com/photos/1920 ... 295900.jpg B7007
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/1920 ... 295873.jpg Tyne Vally from Glentress
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/orig ... 295848.jpg Glentress
http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-a ... 2639_n.jpg ride minus the Glentress route.

It should be noted that the black route has changed and they have not updated the map.!

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Northwind » Mon Oct 01, 2012 23:23 pm

Today I did not ride but yesterday I did the Scottish Downhill Association's trial race, on the new Glencoe Red. Now I don't want to put people off the trail, but with the weather and associated hammering it'd taken, it'd become less of a red route than I'd expected... I thought it might be a bit dull doing a downhill race on a red but it'd evolved into a proper little dh course. Not really hard (though some bits were pretty damn slippy and caught a lot of people out) but hard to ride fast.

Maybe on a dry day it's redder, but if I'd managed to convince my mates into entering they'd have killed me!

Grand day out anyway.
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby stubs » Tue Oct 02, 2012 07:07 am

Northwind wrote:
less of a red route than I'd expected


There you have the basic problem with grading routes. Someone used to riding at say Cannock (randomly picked dont shoot me) could end up in a helicopter if they approach Glencoe red the same way. We need an independent body to do the grading rather than the trail centre saying we have 4 routes lets call them black, red, blue and green. If its not done we could end in a situation where the insurance companies start doing it and we will all end up wearing armour and air bags and riding bikes equipped with stabilisers on fire roads.
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Briggo » Tue Oct 02, 2012 07:12 am

stubs wrote:
Northwind wrote:
less of a red route than I'd expected


There you have the basic problem with grading routes. Someone used to riding at say Cannock (randomly picked dont shoot me) could end up in a helicopter if they approach Glencoe red the same way. We need an independent body to do the grading rather than the trail centre saying we have 4 routes lets call them black, red, blue and green. If its not done we could end in a situation where the insurance companies start doing it and we will all end up wearing armour and air bags and riding bikes equipped with stabilisers on fire roads.


Insurance companies? I'd be interested to see how many personal accident claims are for trail centre incidents in the grand scheme of things. I don't believe trail centres are insured for this in terms of liability insurance?

Something tells me we're a long way off that for various reasons.

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby stubs » Tue Oct 02, 2012 07:43 am

It doesnt matter if trail centres dont carry insurance to cover an accident they will have public liability cover and if someone employs a solicitor with a triangular fin on his back and succesfully sues a trail centre and or the landowner then things will change. I have no idea how much it costs to get someone off a mountain to hospital by helicopter but I bet it costs thousands if not tens of thousands, then you have time off work and all the other expenses pretty soon the bill will grow exponentially.

I work in an office where the worst accident we have had is a paper cut but the insurance company still makes us pay for £10 million liability cover on top of the building and contents. I recently wrote a company cheque for over £4,000 for the business insurance yet the company has never made a claim and hopefully is never going to. Anyone who dies at there desk will be dragged out of the back door and propped up against the wall in the public car park :lol:
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Northwind » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:12 am

stubs wrote:There you have the basic problem with grading routes. Someone used to riding at say Cannock (randomly picked dont shoot me) could end up in a helicopter if they approach Glencoe red the same way. We need an independent body to do the grading.


I'll do it :lol:

Thing is the trail probbaly usually isn't like that, but it'd been hammered by the weather. When it's dry and in good shape it'll still be a challenging red for some but overall I reckon it'd still be in the ballpark. And the fact that it's lift-accessed would put off a lot of more casual riders (people still say Nevis Red's a "red downhill" after all and get put off, when it's no such thing)

The other thing is that trails get their grades for different reasons, and so one red trail might seem harder than another just bceause of differences in riders. But yes even with that excuse grading is all to balls.
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby ilovedirt » Tue Oct 02, 2012 16:18 pm

To be fair, there is a difference (i think) between a red graded XC trail and a red graded downhill trail. At least in france it seemed that way when I went for the first time this year. One of the red routes I rode in chatel was crazy steep and techy in places! But then I assumed that was because it was a red graded downhill trail and not an XC trail.
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby bennett_346 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 17:11 pm

ilovedirt wrote:One of the red routes I rode in chatel was crazy steep and techy in places!

Which one? Been twice, great place.

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby ilovedirt » Tue Oct 02, 2012 17:22 pm

I believe it was called Komatrotrail, was awesome. Only got to ride chatel on the last day of our trip for a few runs, so I hit that one a few times, and a couple of others. Mental fun! Got a go pro vid of it here :)
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby bennett_346 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 17:29 pm

Ah yes, great trail, really flowy though could do with more gap jumps i thought.

Great vid btw, i've tried that rear facing cam before and it gives great results!

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Sleipnir's Master » Tue Oct 02, 2012 20:53 pm

stubs wrote:
Northwind wrote:
less of a red route than I'd expected


There you have the basic problem with grading routes. Someone used to riding at say Cannock (randomly picked dont shoot me) could end up in a helicopter if they approach Glencoe red the same way. We need an independent body to do the grading rather than the trail centre saying we have 4 routes lets call them black, red, blue and green. If its not done we could end in a situation where the insurance companies start doing it and we will all end up wearing armour and air bags and riding bikes equipped with stabilisers on fire roads.


Amen brother.

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby gezebo » Tue Oct 02, 2012 21:44 pm

'Grading' is something that gets argued about in many other sports eg Climbing, and also changes considerably given different weather conditions eg In paddling the grades of rivers can change in given different water levels, sometimes being harder (or sometimes easier) in higher/lower water levels.

Its well known in climbing that Scottish VS's (Climbing grade) are often harder than Welsh VS's.

Ultimately it comes down to either completing a trail cleanly or not and making the decision for yourself on whether you are able to ride it. Grades are simply a rough guide.

Anyway back to the point of the thread... I had a damp ride around the Marin area today :-)

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby ilovedirt » Wed Oct 03, 2012 00:26 am

bennett_346 wrote:Ah yes, great trail, really flowy though could do with more gap jumps i thought.

Great vid btw, i've tried that rear facing cam before and it gives great results!

Cheers mate, it helps if whoever is behind you doesn't stop halfway down the trail :lol:
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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby The Northern Monkey » Sat Oct 06, 2012 19:28 pm

83.6km from Brecon to Cardiff along the Taff Trail, our team of 5 raised over £1200 for charity :)

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Sat Oct 06, 2012 19:39 pm

The Northern Monkey wrote:83.6km from Brecon to Cardiff along the Taff Trail, our team of 5 raised over £1200 for charity :)



Kudos!

How was the RL?

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby The Northern Monkey » Sat Oct 06, 2012 19:42 pm

70\'sPenguin wrote:
The Northern Monkey wrote:83.6km from Brecon to Cardiff along the Taff Trail, our team of 5 raised over £1200 for charity :)



Kudos!

How was the RL?


Thanks :)

Loved it... no sore ars* or hands, legs had a good few more km in them!! Really comfortable to ride!

Stuck with 3 of the team for the first 10km or so, after that I marched on on my own :)

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby J_asonR » Sat Oct 06, 2012 19:46 pm

Today was my second ride after getting into XC and was my best ride so far! A lot of fun in the mud and puddles through the New Forest! Clocked in at just under 20kms in 1 hr 10..

Thought I was going to die after the first 400metres as I looked up at the first hill of the day (which I usually drive up), and I almost did! Hill climbing without warm legs isn't ideal.. However I quickly warmed up and got on with the job in hand and felt like I could do another 20kms at the end of it!

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby Briggo » Sat Oct 06, 2012 20:14 pm

stubs wrote:It doesnt matter if trail centres dont carry insurance to cover an accident they will have public liability cover and if someone employs a solicitor with a triangular fin on his back and succesfully sues a trail centre and or the landowner then things will change. I have no idea how much it costs to get someone off a mountain to hospital by helicopter but I bet it costs thousands if not tens of thousands, then you have time off work and all the other expenses pretty soon the bill will grow exponentially.



Making assumptions, good work.

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Re: Where did you ride today?

Postby mintedox » Sat Oct 06, 2012 23:12 pm

Gisburn today with a mate who's just got a new bike after his was pinched months ago. 1x9 wasn't the best idea, he says he isn't coming again.
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