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Postby DavidBelcher » Fri Sep 21, 2012 08:34 am

hammerite wrote:you're best checking the league website for full results than BC... http://www.wessexcx.co.uk/2012/09/15/ra ... sept-2012/

David - don't turn up to Hillingdon this weekend, the race is the following weekend!


Dunno why I wrote that as I had it firmly lodged in my brain that it's on the 30th!! 4 hours at work followed by a tough 23-mile TT for me on Saturday, so my Sunday this weekend will actually be spent doing as little as possible other than watching the Worlds RR on BBC2. :)

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Postby MikeWW » Fri Sep 21, 2012 09:44 am

Did my first flood lit cross race last night over at Leicester-really good fun. Started on the cinder speedway circuit, took in part of a BMX track, banks, hurdles, went indoors at one point-ace fun.
Not sure where I finished but a fast race

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Postby Coopster the 1st » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:17 am

[Tim] wrote:Well I failed to make it to swindon tonight due to van hire confusion but on the plus side turns out I finished 29/60 at the oxford race on saturday. Since I started DFL I passed 30 people! I'll call that a good start to my cross career!


I had my first CX race at Oxford and it was an eye opener at how hard it is. Could well be my hardest hour of riding on a bike! Coming from the road, I was surprised at how technical the course was (I did not expect the big grassy drops)

I would have been one of those 30 people you passed. I started well mid-pack but by the end of the 1st lap my lungs could not cash the cheques my legs were asking and I slowly drifted backwards to finish 57th.

On the plus side, the roads felt velvet smooth on the following days club run :lol:
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Postby FransJacques » Mon Sep 24, 2012 14:10 pm

Quick question on the Eastern League course this weekend at Baldock. Does anyone know what the venue is like? i.e. hilly, flat, grassy, among trees, etc.

Thinking of going up, it's not far from central London.

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Postby hammerite » Mon Sep 24, 2012 14:50 pm

FransJacques wrote:Quick question on the Eastern League course this weekend at Baldock. Does anyone know what the venue is like? i.e. hilly, flat, grassy, among trees, etc.

Thinking of going up, it's not far from central London.

Thanks in advance.


I think it's the same place as I did my first ever CX race 2 seasons ago. Flat and grassy around a school field mainly. There were a couple of banks with off camber turns and two/three mounds to go over. One was an off and carry, the others were rideable. Obviously it depends how they configure the course.

If I remember rightly I had a similar experience to Coopster, except I started at the back and finished at the back. Thought I was going to have a heart attack for a couple of hours after. I did win a sprint finish with a guy I was coming up to lap.... I think he was also the only other person behind me!

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Postby FransJacques » Mon Sep 24, 2012 16:15 pm

Good sales job there, Hammerite :-) Now I'm not so sure...
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Postby Benjamin Hall » Mon Sep 24, 2012 17:16 pm

Wessex league rnd 2 was hilarious. I spent more time on my back sliding across the mud than I did in the saddle. 24th for me. My start was rubbish!!

Top 20 in that league is my goal for next time.

Next race is the Western league round 2 this Sunday, unless someone knows of a race in the south on Saturday?

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Postby hammerite » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:55 am

FransJacques wrote:Good sales job there, Hammerite :-) Now I'm not so sure...


Don't take the description of how I felt as a gauge, I'm a lot more comfortable in CX races now. Definitely worth going to to race.

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Postby cjcp » Sat Sep 29, 2012 18:21 pm

Anyone racing at Hillingdon tomorrow? First race of the season for me, so should be amusing.
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Postby FransJacques » Mon Oct 01, 2012 07:41 am

Baldock was a good course for what the oranizers had to work with. I was impressed with it. On top of it, it was dry with tons of grip so the cornering was fun with the right tyre pressure. Had a very middling result (mid-20s) because I lacked power on the flats due to a bad warm up. It was won by 2 junior national level riders who flew by me on the last lap.

Not unlike Baldock, Happy Valley yesterday was similar if a bit more interesting. Racing Saturday luckily didn't dull the legs too much and I was able to catch and pass 4 riders out of a group of 5 that was dangling in front of me for 4-5 laps. Nice fast course won by Darren Barclay (again).
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Postby DavidBelcher » Mon Oct 01, 2012 10:20 am

I rode at Hillingdon yesterday afternoon, tough work and a surprisingly warm day (so it seemed) but really enjoyed the event. Threw everything I had at it but sill came in only 85th out of 101 finishers, thought I'd have done better than that but then it was my first one of the season and I started near the very back of the bunch. Not sure if the circuit was shorter than normal but everyone seemed to be lapping faster than usual (3-4 mins in my case), but that could have been due to the dry conditions.

Despite the low placing, I might risk sending in a Central affiliation form and seeing how I get on in some of the other events and indeed overall in the series. Hoping for better things by the time my next Central outing (Brackley) comes around, in the meantime I start my Wessex campaign this coming Sunday at Eastleigh and my club (Sotonia) are the promoting outfit! :) Apart from a couple of wooded bits and a sand trap (parts of the race will be run over a disused golf course using one of the old bunkers!!) the course does have some similar features to Hillingdon so yesterday was quite good practice in hindsight....

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Postby hammerite » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:13 am

I think you came past me just before I dropped out David. I had a shocker, paying for not riding a bike much over the last couple of months, you can't really hide in cross and any lack of fitness is clearly evident! I ended up DNFing as I hurt my back a couple of weeks ago and was in quite a bit of discomfort, not helped by the course being so bumpy.

I think I'm re-evaluating my cross season. Will probably not race until towards the end of the season and just get some miles in my legs. Might plan an assault of some winter road race leagues instead. :cry:

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Postby DavidBelcher » Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:31 am

hammerite wrote:I think you came past me just before I dropped out David. I had a shocker, paying for not riding a bike much over the last couple of months, you can't really hide in cross and any lack of fitness is clearly evident! I ended up DNFing as I hurt my back a couple of weeks ago and was in quite a bit of discomfort, not helped by the course being so bumpy.

I think I'm re-evaluating my cross season. Will probably not race until towards the end of the season and just get some miles in my legs. Might plan an assault of some winter road race leagues instead. :cry:


I definitely recall passing someone in a BRCC jersey in the closing laps. A dry Hillingdon is a very different kettle of fish to a wet one, and that hard, bumpy ground yesterday proved quite demanding on spines, arms, wrists and bums. :(

On the plus side, due to the lack of moisture, at least no-one's rear mech seemed to end up looking like a Flymo grassbox....

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Postby simon t » Mon Oct 01, 2012 17:20 pm

Rode Purdown yesterday, hard work!

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Postby cjcp » Mon Oct 01, 2012 20:32 pm

DavidBelcher wrote:
hammerite wrote:I think you came past me just before I dropped out David. I had a shocker, paying for not riding a bike much over the last couple of months, you can't really hide in cross and any lack of fitness is clearly evident! I ended up DNFing as I hurt my back a couple of weeks ago and was in quite a bit of discomfort, not helped by the course being so bumpy.

I think I'm re-evaluating my cross season. Will probably not race until towards the end of the season and just get some miles in my legs. Might plan an assault of some winter road race leagues instead. :cry:


I definitely recall passing someone in a BRCC jersey in the closing laps. A dry Hillingdon is a very different kettle of fish to a wet one, and that hard, bumpy ground yesterday proved quite demanding on spines, arms, wrists and bums. :(

On the plus side, due to the lack of moisture, at least no-one's rear mech seemed to end up looking like a Flymo grassbox....

David


I remember a BRCC jersey. I was on a blue Kona Jake, with gears grinding like hell, no club kit on. Relieved to have finished as I got my psi wrong last time and flatted in the bumpy, middle section.

@hammerite - I'd stick at it. If it's any consolation, I was a bit of a mess at the end.
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Postby hammerite » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:18 pm

I think I'm going to give the next 3 races a miss to try and get a bit fitter then aim to be back for the A5 Rangers race. If I do that one I can still get the 6 races in to get a league position. There's a two week gap after the A5 race between races to get that little bit fitter too.

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Postby FransJacques » Wed Oct 03, 2012 14:53 pm

Ok, another Wednesday, another post inquiring as to what the Welwyn venue for this Saturday's EL race is like?

Last weekend both Happy Valley and Baldock were beautiful, soft grassy very flat fields with plenty of grip. What's in store for Welwyn?

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Postby Boleynboy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 06:43 am

Anyone else not happy with the revised results for Happy Valley last Sunday in the London and South East League. Major differences between the first results posted on Cross Crazy and the revised one on the London League website. I have dropped down 7 places, but a female Kingston Wheelers rider I raced practically the whole race with until she sprinted away from me in the last 300m ended up 12 places and a lap up on me!

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Postby ratsbeyfus » Thu Oct 04, 2012 09:23 am

Boleynboy wrote:Anyone else not happy with the revised results for Happy Valley last Sunday in the London and South East League. Major differences between the first results posted on Cross Crazy and the revised one on the London League website. I have dropped down 7 places, but a female Kingston Wheelers rider I raced practically the whole race with until she sprinted away from me in the last 300m ended up 12 places and a lap up on me!


You can email the organiser if you can show that they've miscounted your laps or something (link on london cyclo-x website). They put me down one lap short, but like the sad git I am I emailed the organiser with a link to my strava data showing I did one extra lap, and he was happy to update results. Still not in top 100 though :oops: Never mind, it was my first ever cross race and surely the only way is up!
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Postby Boleynboy » Thu Oct 04, 2012 18:59 pm

ratsbeyfus wrote:
Boleynboy wrote:Anyone else not happy with the revised results for Happy Valley last Sunday in the London and South East League. Major differences between the first results posted on Cross Crazy and the revised one on the London League website. I have dropped down 7 places, but a female Kingston Wheelers rider I raced practically the whole race with until she sprinted away from me in the last 300m ended up 12 places and a lap up on me!


You can email the organiser if you can show that they've miscounted your laps or something (link on london cyclo-x website). They put me down one lap short, but like the sad git I am I emailed the organiser with a link to my strava data showing I did one extra lap, and he was happy to update results. Still not in top 100 though :oops: Never mind, it was my first ever cross race and surely the only way is up!


Thanks for your reply, I'm glad I am not the only one who has had issues. From the long que to sign on(which I have never experienced before) to the issuing of hand written numbers I began to have doubts about the level of organisation at this race. I know it takes a hell of a lot of time and prep to organise a race, but we are paying £12(or £15 without a license) to enter these races, and should expect a certain level of organisation, i.e, getting the results right!
Tbh, i cannot prove my laps and placing are wrong, but i do know who I raced with from the first lap, and my placing is defo wrong, but then we are talking toward the back end of the race rather than the front so maybe I should stop being so precious!
By the way, if it was your first race you picked a fast, dry one! They are not all as rapid, dry and untechnical as Sunday, and the muddier, technical races tend to be a tad slower, but not by much. I only started last season, and I am never going to a contender, but I have got the bug so stick with it and you will improve!


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