Orange P7

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Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Wed Oct 03, 2012 17:48 pm

hi,
Im from the the skinny tyre tarmac clang looking for a xc moutain bike to hit the dirt with. Nothing to mad a bit of gravel and dirt.
I really like the look of P7, some of the older stuff and more recent.
So i came across this bike which is local and i liked the look of but am i getting confused, is this a jump bike? a xc bike with jump forks (upgraded byb owner)?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230858648116? ... 1438.l2649


Is the P7 what i should be looking at? I like slopping top tubes, and no tubing to oversized.

Any advice would be fab. £600 2nd hand price bracket. Thanks Tom

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Re: Orange P7

Postby Long Time Lurker » Wed Oct 03, 2012 17:51 pm

A p7 is a trail bike, not really a lightweight xc racer, but will do a job - the one thing about it is that it is a 15" frame. That's pretty small.
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Re: Orange P7

Postby supersonic » Wed Oct 03, 2012 17:52 pm

The P7 is pretty heavy (6lbs for the frame alone), and I wouldn't pay the asking price there. it is what is known as a 'trail bike' ie set up for general trail riding, small drops etc. Not as racy as a pure cross country bike, but not as hard hitting as a 'All mountain' bike, though the frame will take a bigger fork.

i think there is better to be had for the money.

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Re: Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Wed Oct 03, 2012 17:59 pm

Thanks guys,
Any ideas for me to search out on a good light xc bike at this price 2nd hand?

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Re: Orange P7

Postby supersonic » Wed Oct 03, 2012 18:04 pm

Hard to recommend any one particular bike, but I'd be looking for a Boardman Pro. The KHS and Radon range are very good value for new, often better than some second hand deals!

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Re: Orange P7

Postby tarbot18 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 18:08 pm

id be putting my money on a boardman comp for £650 less with discounts they get pretty decent reviews.
If the owner of the orange couldnt be bothered cleaning it for the pics i doubt theyve bothered doing doing anything else to it either !
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Re: Orange P7

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Oct 03, 2012 18:17 pm

If you like the look of the P7 have a look at the Charge Duster or Cooker. Both are excellent xc bikes.

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Re: Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Wed Oct 03, 2012 18:29 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:If you like the look of the P7 have a look at the Charge Duster or Cooker. Both are excellent xc bikes.



That charge duster is sexy!!! Will now do my home work on it. :wink:

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Re: Orange P7

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 18:57 pm

ithymanbags wrote:
RockmonkeySC wrote:If you like the look of the P7 have a look at the Charge Duster or Cooker. Both are excellent xc bikes.



That charge duster is sexy!!! Will now do my home work on it. :wink:


I just changed to a duster frame and oh lordy im in love!

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Re: Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:16 pm

70\'sPenguin wrote:
ithymanbags wrote:
RockmonkeySC wrote:If you like the look of the P7 have a look at the Charge Duster or Cooker. Both are excellent xc bikes.



That charge duster is sexy!!! Will now do my home work on it. :wink:


I just changed to a duster frame and oh lordy im in love!



How do you find the sizing? im 5.9 with a inseam of 29 so im thinking 17.5inch frame?

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Re: Orange P7

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:19 pm

I'm 6'1" and a large (19"?) is just about big enough for me.

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Re: Orange P7

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:22 pm

I have the medium 18" and the standover is 29" so you would be right on the limit.

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Re: Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:29 pm

Does that mean 17.5inch is to big for me then?

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Re: Orange P7

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:35 pm

No it would be fine, but you wouldnt want to go a size larger!

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Re: Orange P7

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Oct 03, 2012 19:58 pm

Find a shop with one in stock and try for size.
Duster rides really nicely.

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Re: Orange P7

Postby cooldad » Wed Oct 03, 2012 20:01 pm

Go and sit on one before you pick a size.
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Re: Orange P7

Postby Time.to.ride » Fri Oct 05, 2012 08:13 am

P7 still for sale £700 ?

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Re: Orange P7

Postby ithymanbags » Tue Oct 09, 2012 19:40 pm

Hey guys,
I decided on a charge duster and got the bike cheap from Rutland cycles. I need to find your opinons on the spec quoted by rutland.
spec as follows:
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CHARGE DUSTER HI PURPLE TANGE STEEL 17.5" MOUNTAIN BIKE 2012 CLEARANCE

This bike has been used as a demonstration bike and it does show signs of use and therefore these are reflected within the selling price.

PLEASE DO NOT EXPECT A BIKE IN MINT CONDITION.

OK
Frame Tange Prestige, Seamless, custom drawn, double butted skinny cro-mo
Fork Rockshox Recon Silver Coil, 100mm, Rebound, TK Lockout
Brakes Avid Elixir 3
Levers Avid Elixir 3
HeadsetFSA TH-875
Stem Shield MTB, 31.8mm
Handle bars Shield Plus MTB, DB, 700mm, 15mm, 31.8mm
Pedals flats
BB Truvativ GXP outboard
Rims ALEX XD-Lite, DOUBLE WALL, 32H
Grips New' Charge Griddle lock-on
Tires Charge Splashback
Saddle Charge Spoon
Seatpost Shield, 2 bolt
Seat Clamp Shield, bolt type
Shift Levers SRAM X7 10/s
Front Derailleur SRAM X7 Low mount 10/s
Rear Derailleur SRAM X7 long cage 10/s
Crankset SRAM X7 GXP 10S 39/26
Cassette SRAM PG 1050 11-36t
Front Hub SRAM X-7, 32h
Rear Hub SRAM X-7, 32h


Please note that our bikes come in factory box and do require some assembly, professional setup advised

Note: Manufacturer may reserve the right to change the specification of that listed or shown on this page
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So the bikes arrives and there a fair few scuffs and chips, probaly from bad handling at there end. But i cant argue as it was stated condition isnt mint ( so fair do's). Also the bike looks as if its never been riden because dust that thick cannot stick to metal traveling into a breeze. Plus the tyres are spottless.
My complaint is this, the FORKS, They stated in the spec "Fork Rockshox Recon Silver Coil, 100mm, Rebound, TK Lockout".
What arrived was all of the above but no lockout, where the turn key should be there is a hexagon spanner type black plastic cap like what you get on entry level audi or lidil bikes. Wierd!
At the bottom it states " Manufacturer may reserve the right to change the specification of that listed or shown on this page" .
Im not being funny but this isnt a manu change is it? Its more of a another bike needed it in the past and it never got replaced.

Please give me your thoughts, Thanks Tom

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Re: Orange P7

Postby 101_North » Tue Oct 09, 2012 20:27 pm

Ignore me!
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Re: Orange P7

Postby The Rookie » Tue Oct 09, 2012 20:34 pm

Yes with lockout!!!!!

I've never worried about lockout or otherwise on an MTB to be honest... I wouldn't reject the bike on that basis but if you can get a few quid back for it.......


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