Mazzocchi caught for doping...

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Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby frenchfighter » Thu Oct 04, 2012 08:47 am

...in a Granfondo

You will be asking yourself "who's Mazzocchi?" and it was the same question that most of italian people asked themself when in the summer of 2011 he won the Maratona dles Dolomites.
Nothing wrong with winning a big Granfondo event but the strange thing is that the previous year he arrived at something like 50 minutes from the winner and not any other result to compare with.
Well, yesterday he was sanctioned by italian Olympic commitee to a 2 years ban for being caught for Epo at a small Granfondo near Belluno this summer.


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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby iainf72 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 08:50 am

2nd winner in 3 years caught.

Pathetic. That said, there is money in it, so it's not surprising
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Richmond Racer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 08:51 am

FFS

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby OffTheBackAdam » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:01 am

Richmond Racer wrote:FFS


+1
Is this akin to doping to "win" a sportive?

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby rozzer32 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:03 am

OffTheBackAdam wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:FFS


+1
Is this akin to doping to "win" a sportive?


Think sportives are run slightly differently over in Europe. Think they are more like races with prize money for the top finishers.
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby andyp » Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:12 am

Riders like Jamie Burrow and Raimondo Rumsas are paid to ride GFs, i.e. essentially are still full time pros. Given the prize money available and the attitude to doping in Italy, it is surely no surprise that riders dope to do well.

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby LangerDan » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:15 am

andyp wrote:Riders like Jamie Burrow and Raimondo Rumsas are paid to ride GFs, i.e. essentially are still full time pros. Given the prize money available and the attitude to doping in Italy, it is surely no surprise that riders dope to do well.

It goes way beyond that level, though. A few years ago, there was some over-50s rider busted for EPO use on a granfondo
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Richmond Racer » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:21 am

LangerDan wrote:
andyp wrote:Riders like Jamie Burrow and Raimondo Rumsas are paid to ride GFs, i.e. essentially are still full time pros. Given the prize money available and the attitude to doping in Italy, it is surely no surprise that riders dope to do well.

It goes way beyond that level, though. A few years ago, there was some over-50s rider busted for EPO use on a granfondo



This year too - Masters rider called David Antony tested postive for EPO at the Gran Fondo New York (to the embarassment of nyvelocity.com as he was associated to them in some way)

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Pross » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:29 am

So are they testing these riders harder than the pros or is it just that they lack the technical support to cover up the EPO usage?

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Lightning » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:45 am

Those shorts :roll:

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Rick Chasey » Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:16 pm

Pross wrote:So are they testing these riders harder than the pros or is it just that they lack the technical support to cover up the EPO usage?


Yup. Presumably the tests are less good too so they take more risks.

I got the impression from the Hamilton book that the EPO tests forced everyone towards blood transfusions instead.

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Nick Fitt » Thu Oct 04, 2012 15:25 pm

Lightning wrote:Those shorts :roll:

The whole outfit is shocking :shock:

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby iainf72 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 08:25 am

Rick Chasey wrote:I got the impression from the Hamilton book that the EPO tests forced everyone towards blood transfusions instead.


It's combined. If you take the EPO I/V the risks of being nabbed are low.
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Trev The Rev » Fri Oct 05, 2012 08:32 am

Pross wrote:So are they testing these riders harder than the pros or is it just that they lack the technical support to cover up the EPO usage?


What do you think the pro teams have doctors for. Their job is to make sure they don't fail the drug tests.

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Rick Chasey » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:33 am

iainf72 wrote:
Rick Chasey wrote:I got the impression from the Hamilton book that the EPO tests forced everyone towards blood transfusions instead.


It's combined. If you take the EPO I/V the risks of being nabbed are low.


Fair enough, I bow to your cutting edge knowledge...


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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Jez mon » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:15 am

I don't get it, why would you take EPO in such a way that you were still glowing at the event? Just use it during training blocks, don't get caught, don't look like a prat.

It takes what, 8 days to leave the system if you do it into fat, 24 hrs intra venously

As far as I'm aware, he's not going to get testers turning up at home, just at events. Surely doping as an amateur should be fairly easy.

Does Ricco ride any Granfondos? Or are they all UCI accredited.
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby Richmond Racer » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:43 am

Jez mon wrote:I don't get it, why would you take EPO in such a way that you were still glowing at the event? Just use it during training blocks, don't get caught, don't look like a prat.

It takes what, 8 days to leave the system if you do it into fat, 24 hrs intra venously

As far as I'm aware, he's not going to get testers turning up at home, just at events. Surely doping as an amateur should be fairly easy.

Does Ricco ride any Granfondos? Or are they all UCI accredited.



He's certainly been trying...
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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby dougzz » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:56 pm

It does seem odd, I suppose he's either very stupid, of he thought he'd gone IV but missed the vein. Maybe he just thought they wouldn't bother with an EPO test. It must be expensive to test for all possibilities, and I assume they test only for certain things at different times.

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Re: Mazzocchi caught for doping...

Postby FJS » Fri Oct 05, 2012 18:13 pm

Interesting. I was in that 2011 Maratona and a number of riders in the top 10 actually tested positive but not Mazzocchi.he must have let his guard down for that smaller gran fondo.....


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