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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby MarkP80 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 19:59 pm

Into week 2 of the basic 6 week planand tonight was Monitor. Six intervals at something called Sweet Spot but I found it anything but sweet, I can tell you! Really enjoying this though!
http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/84033

dw, I've not seen anything in my numbers yet but even in this short a period of time I'm definitely starting to feel the benefit, so I know what you mean. I'd never train this hard on the road.

Easiest way for me to get my power/kg up is too lose some weight though - I'm too heavy!

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby dw300 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 20:13 pm

MarkP80 wrote:Into week 2 of the basic 6 week planand tonight was Monitor. Six intervals at something called Sweet Spot but I found it anything but sweet, I can tell you! Really enjoying this though!
http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/84033

dw, I've not seen anything in my numbers yet but even in this short a period of time I'm definitely starting to feel the benefit, so I know what you mean. I'd never train this hard on the road.

Easiest way for me to get my power/kg up is too lose some weight though - I'm too heavy!

Cheers,
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First up .. keep ploughing away at that training plan. It's just a matter of getting those hours done.

I think I've done monitor and yeh, i remember it being pretty tough, and I agree that I'd never train this hard on the road. It'd be close, but you always leave something in the bag on the road if you dont know what's round the next corner, and till you're within coasting distance of home.

Just be consistant. When your next test due?
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby MarkP80 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 21:50 pm

First up .. keep ploughing away at that training plan. It's just a matter of getting those hours done.

Just be consistant. When your next test due?


Well, there's every chance I will stick with it because TrainerRoad really works for me as a motivator. I think the key is that the targets are set based on the results of my own test, so there's no excuse not to comlete a workout - you can't cheat yourself, as the saying goes. Fiendishly clever!

Don't know when my next test would be due, I presumed I'd just do one at the end of this 6 week basic programme.

- and thanks for the encouragement! I'm a long way off your FTP though and I had a really good laugh when I saw bigdave's Carson - his power during his rest periods is way above my maximum when I'm going for it! Nice one Sir!

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby dw300 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 23:20 pm

I should have said that you'll get pretty fast improvement at the start, as you get your body used to geting near its current potential.

I'd say that testing at 6-8 weeks intervals seems good to me. Not sure what the suggestions are, but it's perfectly possible that after your first few weeks that you've improved enough that you aren't doing the workouts at the right intensity. So maybe every 6 weeks until you start to only raise you FTP by single figures, then do it less often?

Perhaps more long term trainers have some advice on that.

I've been using TR for 9 weeks in which time I tested on week 1, 3 and 9, with FTP of 172, 212, 233. I adjusted position between the 1st and 2nd test, as well as having better pacing, which was also an improvement between 2nd and 3rd. Some of it was fitness too hopefully! ;)

Anyway .. if you have a goal in the back of your head (relatively short term and achievable) that'll help you with the training too.
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby bigdaveskinnytyre » Tue Oct 02, 2012 23:59 pm

6-8 weeks between tests seems pretty sensible. I've got 3 weeks in Australia without the bike from Friday so will re-test on my return and get back into proper training then.

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby MarkP80 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:56 am

I should have said that you'll get pretty fast improvement at the start, as you get your body used to geting near its current potential.

- Funny you should say that, but already I've noticed I'm sustaining a higher cadence and I can tolerate the discomfort of intervals a lot better than when I started.

I've been using TR for 9 weeks in which time I tested on week 1, 3 and 9, with FTP of 172, 212, 233.

- now that's encouraging, as you started at the same sort of FTP as me. Interestingly you experienced a big jump after 3 weeks. I wonder if I should retest at the same time to make sure I keep the intensity up. One for me to think about towards the end of next week.

bigdaveskinnytyre wrote:I've got 3 weeks in Australia without the bike from Friday so will re-test on my return and get back into proper training then.

- goodness knows how puny you'll make my outputs look once you're into "proper training"!

There's a warning on my trainer telling me not to touch the fins on the resistence unit as they may become hot. Not when I'm using it they don't!

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby bigdaveskinnytyre » Wed Oct 03, 2012 12:48 pm

MarkP80 wrote: - goodness knows how puny you'll make my outputs look once you're into "proper training"!



It's not really proper training as I have no race goals at the moment, that'll change when I return to Europe next year.

Remember we've all got to start somewhere but it's like Greg Lemond said; "It never gets easier, you just go faster".

You've seen some improvements already, keep it up and the numbers will speak for themselves.

This is my last TR session before my holiday Carillon

For some reason I was really dreading doing this one (2 x 2x10 minutes of sweet spot). It wasn't quite as bad as I feared though. I had planned on a couple of hours on the road but broke a spoke on my Fulcrum 3 after 10 miles, cue Mrs BDST to the rescue and an unplanned TR session.

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby Dubcat » Wed Oct 03, 2012 14:48 pm

My GSC 10 arrived this morning. I have reserved a moviestick at my local Evans and will get that first thing tomorrow. Trainerroad here I come!
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby ChrisSA » Wed Oct 03, 2012 21:01 pm

Throwing my hat in to the ring for this.

A few teething issues, mainly due to not knowing what I was doing (wrong setting on turbo....bloody kids). Currently 2 weeks in to a 6 week session of Thunderbolt and Langley. Aiming to turbo twice a week with a real ride at the weekend.

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby dw300 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 00:10 am

I expect this thread might start getting more popular .. i was out today and it was 9° and I couldn't feel my fingers!

Hi to the new guys!
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Thu Oct 04, 2012 03:37 am

dw300 wrote:I expect this thread might start getting more popular .. i was out today and it was 9° and I couldn't feel my fingers!

Hi to the new guys!

Indeed. There is a mahoosive guide all the way back on page 5 chaps if you need a little help.

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby JGSI » Thu Oct 04, 2012 07:22 am

You'll all be unrepentant turbo junkies in no time!
But, I did do a road ride yesterday, honest!
Even going out on Sunday as well!

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby MarkP80 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 09:54 am

Road JGSI? Ooh no, I couldn't possibly go outside!

Yes, welcome to the new guys. And TMH, it is indeed an excellent guide, thank you!

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby Dubcat » Thu Oct 04, 2012 17:58 pm

The guide on page 5 is very useful. Thanks for that.

Can the HRM talk to the moviestick and my forerunner watch at the same time?

I am going to install the GSC 10 on my mountain bike tonight and do my training on that. Just have to wait for the kids to fall asleep :)

Can you buy spare magnets for the wheel from somewhere? I am putting the magnet on my turbo trainer wheel but would be nice to get one for my normal wheel if I ever buy an Edge.
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby JGSI » Thu Oct 04, 2012 18:41 pm

Dubcat wrote:The guide on page 5 is very useful. Thanks for that.

Can the HRM talk to the moviestick and my forerunner watch at the same time?

I am going to install the GSC 10 on my mountain bike tonight and do my training on that. Just have to wait for the kids to fall asleep :)

Can you buy spare magnets for the wheel from somewhere? I am putting the magnet on my turbo trainer wheel but would be nice to get one for my normal wheel if I ever buy an Edge.


sometimes halfords are useful, spare wheel magnets I have seen on their bikebits shelf.

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby MarkP80 » Thu Oct 04, 2012 19:38 pm

An hour and a half of Eclipse. Those three twenty minute intervals were tough. It's all in the mind though, that's what I kept telling myself! :twisted:

I followed the instructions on different cadences for the three intervals and found that an interesting trial.

http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/84811

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby JGSI » Thu Oct 04, 2012 19:45 pm

MarkP80 wrote:An hour and a half of Eclipse. Those three twenty minute intervals were tough. It's all in the mind though, that's what I kept telling myself! :twisted:

I followed the instructions on different cadences for the three intervals and found that an interesting trial.

http://www.trainerroad.com/cycling/rides/84811

Cheers,
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It does ask questions.. I think you know now , only to be done with fresh legs :wink:

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Thu Oct 04, 2012 19:48 pm

Dubcat wrote:The guide on page 5 is very useful. Thanks for that.

Can the HRM talk to the moviestick and my forerunner watch at the same time?

I am going to install the GSC 10 on my mountain bike tonight and do my training on that. Just have to wait for the kids to fall asleep :)

Can you buy spare magnets for the wheel from somewhere? I am putting the magnet on my turbo trainer wheel but would be nice to get one for my normal wheel if I ever buy an Edge.


Not entirely sure. Magnets are a basic affair, like JGSI says Halfrauds may have them in stock

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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby Dubcat » Thu Oct 04, 2012 20:13 pm

GSC 10 fitted. Back to page 5 to read up. Excited! I really shouldn't do the initial test tonight as the wife is getting steadily more angry with me. Not sure I can resist it though. :)
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Re: The official TrainerRoad thread

Postby Dubcat » Thu Oct 04, 2012 20:27 pm

Sod it - i will hold off until the morning and do a 1hr test. Do I have to be online when using trainerroad? Hope not - can't get wifi out in the garage :(

** I noticed that you can use it without being offline. Cool! **
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