Mr Policeman undertaking....

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Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby southdownswolf » Thu Oct 04, 2012 19:27 pm

What hope do we have when even the police break the law against cyclists?

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/police ... verything/

Sorry if this has already been posted, couldn't see it anywhere else.
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby knownothingbozo » Fri Oct 05, 2012 06:05 am

I'm a police officer - please for the sake of all of us, report this muppet, his attitude sucks and he's an appalling example.
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby diy » Fri Oct 05, 2012 06:58 am

Copper is definitely in the wrong, didn't really give the cyclist time to return to the left. But How did the cyclist catch up with him when the lights had just gone red :?

I would suggest this is a case of inconsiderate driving.

but we cannot see what hand signals the cyclist is giving? Unless he is turning right he really should have been on the left, not that he had much time to move over.

Did anyone else spot that plod wasn't wearing his seat belt :shock: though they do have exemption.

I must admit I really don't get why plod need shoguns and range rovers in central london anyway.

But what must not be lost is the fact that this likely to be Advanced Driver - deliberately cut up a cyclist.

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby NWLondoner » Fri Oct 05, 2012 07:52 am

IMO BOTH the cyclist and Plod are in the wrong.

The roads were quiet so in these circumstances the cyclist could have moved over to the bus lane and then safely filtered to the right hand lane when approaching his turn. If it was busy/rush hour then holding primary in that lane would be the most sensible and safest approach.

However the Plod was a complete TWUNT!!! Undertaking in a bus lane and cutting across the cyclist is UNFORGIVABLE. Considering they are supposed to have had super advanced driver training I suggest that this is revoked ASAP!!

Also REFUSING to give his ID Number is out of order.

I know NOT all Police are bad apples but living and cycling in London the attitude of the majority of the Met i've dealt with over the years has left me with not too favourable view of them.

Almost being wiped out by a Territorial support vehicle over taking me in Regents Park at speed and only giving about 6 inches of room and then turning right towards the Mosque didn't help either.

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby itsnotarace » Fri Oct 05, 2012 08:27 am

NWLondoner wrote:IMO BOTH the cyclist and Plod are in the wrong.


This^^

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby giant man » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:00 am

southdownswolf wrote:What hope do we have when even the police break the law against cyclists?

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2012/10/police ... verything/

Sorry if this has already been posted, couldn't see it anywhere else.

Yeah they do this kind of thing and get away with it, cos they can ...
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby Joeblack » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:02 am

I'd have punched the copper or at very least kicked his wing mirror off and then blazed through a red light so I could get home in time to pm Ez_rider about decals ;-)
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby Churchill123 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:52 am

Let's hope he gets reported for being a complete bell end if anything - I thought when asked for ID numbers they had to give them? - Although from my dealings with plod they seem to do as they please as they think they are above the law!

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby ALIHISGREAT » Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:03 am

Churchill123 wrote:Let's hope he gets reported for being a complete bell end if anything - I thought when asked for ID numbers they had to give them? - Although from my dealings with plod they seem to do as they please as they think they are above the law!


yeah they have to if you ask them.

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby thegibdog » Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:31 am

diy wrote: But How did the cyclist catch up with him when the lights had just gone red :?

Indeed, it seems the cyclist conveniently edited out his own law breaking.

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby The Cyclist of Catan » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:18 pm

Leaving aside the RLJ (not least because plod didn't appear to notice it - perhaps he has trouble with his mirrors too?), that was poor driving significantly compounded with a very poor attitude. I wondered from the appearance of the car and driver whether he was an armed unit - they can be touchiest than the average police officer when approached IME. But either way, his manner in dealing with the public would benefit from some re-education, and he ought to brush up on his road craft too.
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby jonomc4 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:49 pm

I was going down a bus lane only to have a private car drive it and almost knocking me off (and yes the lane was not open to cars at that time). I cursed the driver more than a little!

Anyway due to traffic I caught the car up about 3 mopters down the road (there was no longer a bus lane) - I looked in the car and low and behold the driver had a met policemans jacket on!

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby itsnotarace » Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:00 pm

The Cyclist of Catan wrote: I wondered from the appearance of the car and driver whether he was an armed unit


My first thought when I first saw the clip was SO19 but their cars are marked with a small yellow circular sticker on the side and rear, so it was probably a protection vehicle for politicians / royals and various other bigwigs

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby diy » Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:34 pm

I thought the same, and having trained advanced motorcycling to some of those guys, thought the standard of driving matched pretty well. I remember one anti-terrism officer I trained who when questioned about what he learned on his Advanced driving course (I was teaching bikes and his skill was someway short), he proudly stated, they just said put your foot down and go like F***. He couldn't ride for toffee, but compensated for his lack of skill with more right hand. I hope he is still with us :?

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby philthy3 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:51 pm

knownothingbozo wrote:I'm a police officer - please for the sake of all of us, report this muppet, his attitude sucks and he's an appalling example.


I'll second that. Muppets like him give the rest of us a bad name.
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby philthy3 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 13:53 pm

diy wrote:Copper is definitely in the wrong, didn't really give the cyclist time to return to the left. But How did the cyclist catch up with him when the lights had just gone red :?

I would suggest this is a case of inconsiderate driving.

but we cannot see what hand signals the cyclist is giving? Unless he is turning right he really should have been on the left, not that he had much time to move over.

Did anyone else spot that plod wasn't wearing his seat belt :shock: though they do have exemption.

I must admit I really don't get why plod need shoguns and range rovers in central london anyway.

But what must not be lost is the fact that this likely to be Advanced Driver - deliberately cut up a cyclist.


No they don't. Unless there is a prisoner in the vehicle they should be wearing a seat belt. Only those that have attended and passed an Advance Driving course will be advanced. The majority of officers are on standard driving authorities. And WTF is it with the shades?
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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby diy » Fri Oct 05, 2012 14:43 pm

Wrong again ;) that may be policy, but the legal exemption is unconditional.

The Motor Vehicles (Wearing of Seat Belts) Regulations 1993
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1993 ... ion/6/made

part 2 reg 6 (f)
(f) a person driving or riding in a vehicle while it is being used for fire brigade or police purposes or for carrying a person in lawful custody (a person who is being so carried being included in this exemption);

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby CambsNewbie » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:24 pm

Phew! Was worried until I saw it was in London and the car was a Range Rover! My force can barely afford Astras. And even then with half an engine!

Also seems to be a lot of coppers on here!

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby steve6690 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:44 pm

2 dickheads in the same place at the same time. The cyclist should have been in the bus/cycle lane, and the bobby shouldn't have undertaken like that. And as for those shades... :roll:
In our force you have to be advanced grade to even take a Range Rover out on the roads, but even a standard driver knows you don't use a bus lane to undertake a cyclist. Not even on an emergency call.

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Re: Mr Policeman undertaking....

Postby Mike39496 » Fri Oct 05, 2012 18:09 pm

steve6690 wrote:2 dickheads in the same place at the same time. The cyclist should have been in the bus/cycle lane, and the bobby shouldn't have undertaken like that. And as for those shades... :roll:
In our force you have to be advanced grade to even take a Range Rover out on the roads, but even a standard driver knows you don't use a bus lane to undertake a cyclist. Not even on an emergency call.


The shades are ballistic glasses are they not? He seemed to be armed response so this would make sense.


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