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jessand
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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby jessand » Mon Oct 01, 2012 18:41 pm

The 'Virtual' is the one that matters because it gives the distance from seapost to head tube i.e determines the reach from which you can calculate the stem length required etc. That's why they measure it that way, if they gave the actual measurement only you'd need a formula based on the degree of top tube slope to calculate the reach.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Salsa » Mon Oct 01, 2012 19:19 pm

Cheers woodnut/jessand, I think I'll risk a 54 then and play abut with stem length if needed 8)
It was just tonye_n's reply threw me a bit, I got the idea the actual tt was 54.5 not virtual 54.5 as in the geo chart, thanks for the clarification on that.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Ck101 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 21:24 pm

Ok the 10 arrived yesterday, all well and I'm pleased so far. The service from UK bikes depot has been 100% excellent. The bike was a soiled display model and cost £699 + delivery. A sizeable discount considering the damage consisted only of a chip of paint 1mm round with no denting. Easily touched up.

The 4600 Tiagra is smooth, the bike is light. I have changed the wheels to Askiums, the seatpost to carbon and the saddle to Prologo (because I have them). Just waiting on a new set of black SKS chromo plastics. Looking forward to getting it out for its first 100k.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby tonye_n » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:13 am

Salsa wrote:Tonye_n have you measured that tt yourself? It's just I'm thinking of the frame/fork combo & on the Genesis site they show the 54 has a 54.5 virtual tt? So I was assuming the actual tt would actually be a bit shorter by 20-30mm. Comparing it to the bike I have which is a 53.5 tt & a virtual tt of approx 56.5 (with the same head/seat angles) that actually suggests the 56 is the same virtual as mine.
Or is it that Genesis shows the geo pic as being the virtual but infact it's the actual tt length.
I'm really fussy about the tt length (long legged/short torso) and don't want to buy too long a frame and I can't demo before buying.


Yes I have measured this my self. The vtt is about 54.5cm, and that is the relevant dimension in use. The length by which you will be stretched when ridding. The actual top tube length is not the relevant one.

I was thinking of converting my flatbar road bike to drops. As such I measured every dimension of the geometry of both bikes. I wanted to replicate the fit of my Equilibrium.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby michel v » Fri Oct 05, 2012 15:28 pm

Parcel delivery...

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Jonny_Trousers » Fri Oct 05, 2012 15:30 pm

michel v wrote:Parcel delivery...

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Sweet! First tomato soup orange one I've seen! Enjoy!

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby UndercoverElephant » Fri Oct 05, 2012 15:37 pm

With a pre-fitted headset? No fair!

(That said, mine has a buttery smooth Campag Record headset fitted, and it's lovely.)

Very nice, very nice indeed.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby michel v » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:19 pm

I'm not crazy about the colour TBH, I would've preferred a "real" orange. Maybe it'll grow on me!

About the headset: UKbikesdepot sell the framesets with the headset fitted for 20 pounds extra, about half the retail price of said headset (M:Part Elite) from what I gather. Cheap enough for me to risk it.

I'm sure the Campag Record headset's much nicer though :)

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby notsoblue » Fri Oct 05, 2012 16:26 pm

michel v wrote:Parcel delivery...

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Thats a thing of beauty...

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The Fuggler
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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby The Fuggler » Fri Oct 05, 2012 17:32 pm

I really, really like that. Look forward to seeing the finished article.
FCN 3 / 4

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby samsbike » Fri Oct 19, 2012 09:47 am

Does anyone know of the width of the handlebars on the 56" genesis 10 and also what are the fattest wheels I can fit without fouling.

thanks

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Sketchley » Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:17 am

samsbike wrote:Does anyone know of the width of the handlebars on the 56" genesis 10 and also what are the fattest wheels I can fit without fouling.

thanks


I run 28s (conti gator skins and 4 seasons) along with mudguard on mine and it's tight but fine. I also have shimano 650 brakes and it's difficult to get tyre passed blocks fully inflated which isn't a big problem unless taking front wheel off bike for transport in car or locking up. I would not go bigger than 28s especially is running mudguards and be careful of tyre choice as some 28s are bigger than others....
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Genesis Equilibrium - FCN 3/4/5

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby tonye_n » Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:36 pm

samsbike wrote:Does anyone know of the width of the handlebars on the 56" genesis 10 and also what are the fattest wheels I can fit without fouling.

thanks

42cm c-c and at the hoods.
With mudguards 25c. Without muddies 28c.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby samsbike » Fri Oct 19, 2012 15:00 pm

Thank you both.

I was hoping to fit 28 Marathon but looks like its unlikely to fit as I also run mudgards.

How would I know if I would require a 44 set of bars. FWIW my suits are a 42 ish.

thanks

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby samsbike » Fri Oct 19, 2012 15:04 pm

michel v wrote:Parcel delivery...

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That does look very nice and bright. Much better than the cherry red, imo.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Mark__gti » Fri Oct 19, 2012 19:27 pm

ok, so i cant find stock of the complete equilibrium 20 iv been looking into the idea of building my own but i need some help on afew parts.
What size clamp do i need on the front derailer?
What size seatpost?
Do i need a short or medium rear mech? (want to run compact gearing)

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby Jonny_Trousers » Fri Oct 19, 2012 19:58 pm

Mark__gti wrote:Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?


I think the answers to your other questions can be found in this thread. Undercoverelephant seems to be the go to man where Equilibrium technical details are concerned.

As for the above, there's a chap goes by the name of ugo_santiago on this site who does hand built wheels at fantastic prices. He made me a pair of open pros on novatec hubs for just £200. They're tough enough for the commute and light enough to really make a difference on quick rides. Give him a shout, he has several satisfied customers here.

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby RRSODL » Fri Oct 19, 2012 22:40 pm

I love steel frames. I wonder what's the weight of this Equilibrium in size 58cm, I bet it's more than a Reynolds 351c 58cm

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Re: @ Genesis Equilibrium riders

Postby UndercoverElephant » Sat Oct 20, 2012 06:37 am

Mark__gti wrote:ok, so i cant find stock of the complete equilibrium 20 iv been looking into the idea of building my own but i need some help on afew parts.
What size clamp do i need on the front derailer?
What size seatpost?
Do i need a short or medium rear mech? (want to run compact gearing)

Also any advice on some decent commuting wheels for around £200?


You'll also need cable barrel-adjusters and a cable guide for the bottom bracket shell, as the frame comes without. It did have a seat-post collar (black), but I used a different 29.8 mm band, because I'd already bought it, and it was silver. FD clamp is a 28.6 mm one. Seat post is the standard 27.2mm.

Compact doubles use short-cage mechs, long cage are for triples or MTB cassettes.

Hand-built is definitely the way for wheels, Spa cycles are usually mentioned, if I didn't build my own, I'd use them.

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Bling'ed up Equilibrium 20

Postby Ck101 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 08:40 am

Here is my new winter steed, a Genesis Equilibrium 20, SKS Chromoplastic 35's, Pro Logo Scratch, Ritchey Pro Finishing Kit and Mavic Askium wheels. The existing saddle, wheels etc don't do the frame any justice. Surprisingly light and a beautiful bike to ride.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/58234209@N02/sets/72157631834274865/

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