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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby hammerite » Fri Oct 05, 2012 09:38 am

Boleynboy wrote: From the long que to sign on(which I have never experienced before) to the issuing of hand written numbers I began to have doubts about the level of organisation at this race. I know it takes a hell of a lot of time and prep to organise a race, but we are paying £12(or £15 without a license) to enter these races, and should expect a certain level of organisation, i.e, getting the results right!


Good organisation is free. All races will have similar costs for hiring the venue, buying kit, riders levies, race registration etc....

Having worked on lap counting/results it's a pretty stressful job and easy for things to go wrong. However, given there are usually a couple of people doing the same thing (as back up) it's usually pretty easy to track where things went wrong - like one lap taking 16 minutes when all the others took the rider 8 mins. E-mail the organiser and just tell them which riders you think you finished close to, it might be easy for them to track where it's wrong. Sometimes they're not aware until someone queries it.

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Postby PuttyKnees » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:16 pm

Yep, almost impossible for the results to be right first time. Even chip timing results are often wrong for some reason. Just send them a polite email and ask for it to be looked at.

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Postby andyp » Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:44 pm

My result was wrongly recorded too. I spent most of the race in a three way scrap with two other riders and in the initial results we'd been given places 35, 60-something and 98th! I emailed the organiser, gave as much detail as I could about where I was on each lap, who I was racing with and where we were in relation to the leaders (we were lapped by the first three on the last lap and a half) and he very kindly revised the results so we're in the correct place.

Having done lap counting at Muddy Hell on a couple of occasions, I've nothing but respect for those that do it as it is a difficult job that goes unseen by most. I think riders should always try and keep an eye on who they are racing with each lap, so if you are wrongly listed in the results you can provide lots of detail to the organiser to help them correct the results.

I got plenty of practice in last year as I must've been wrongly categorised in close to 50% of the London League rounds I rode, but it was corrected each time.

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Postby FransJacques » Sat Oct 06, 2012 18:54 pm

Eastern League organization continues to impress! Results up 4 hours after the race, multo impressivo: http://www.easterncross.org.uk/race12-13-5.htm

Very slow going course on water-logged grass made it really hard work with lap times in the high 7 minutes for most. Except the winner who was raging around in the 6:50s. Amazing.

Will probably give Herne Hill a miss tomorrow and do a long road ride instead...
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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby DavidBelcher » Mon Oct 08, 2012 08:20 am

Did anyone else give the Wessex League event at Eastleigh a go yesterday? Being a member of the promoting club I'm bound to be biased, but I had a great day out and thought we did OK for what was effectively a first-time promotion (the club hasn't run a CX race since the '70s). It was a tough course with some energy-sapping uphill sections, the warm weather making it that little bit more taxing; apart from the sand pit - never been a big fan of sand - I managed to ride all of it without resorting to carrying/pushing the bike. I was slightly lucky since riding in the Senior race meant that the course didn't get quite so cut-up and tricky in places compared to the Juniors'/Vets'/Women's event after it. I think I placed about 25th eventually out of a small field of 30 riders, having had a decent "race within a race" against my fellow back-markers.
The general consensus in the club is that it was a well-received event and riders liked the course, so the chance of a re-run for the 2013-2014 is already looking strong! The other added bonus for me is that the venue is nice and close to home, so I rode out from Winchester by way of a warm-up. :)

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Postby Monty Dog » Mon Oct 08, 2012 16:39 pm

David, I raced the Vets race so enjoyed a field of 80-odd riders. As I haven't raced this year, I started at the back, managing to work my way through the field to finish somewhere in the top-20 which wasn't bad considering my lack of training. Great course - far tougher than it looked and wide enough in place to make passing possible. I had one rider trying to 'block' me going through the trees as he kept cutting me off as I tried to go around the outside - by which time I had already passed about 30 riders. Thankfully the long uphill drag soon put paid to this nonsense.
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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby Benjamin Hall » Mon Oct 08, 2012 16:56 pm

Sundays race, Round 3 of the Western league. Not the best result, but it's all good training.

http://ifonlyiwerebelgian.com/2012/10/0 ... s-is-like/

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Postby DavidBelcher » Mon Oct 08, 2012 17:31 pm

Monty Dog wrote:David, I raced the Vets race so enjoyed a field of 80-odd riders. As I haven't raced this year, I started at the back, managing to work my way through the field to finish somewhere in the top-20 which wasn't bad considering my lack of training. Great course - far tougher than it looked and wide enough in place to make passing possible. I had one rider trying to 'block' me going through the trees as he kept cutting me off as I tried to go around the outside - by which time I had already passed about 30 riders. Thankfully the long uphill drag soon put paid to this nonsense.


Glad you thought the club had come up with a good course. We did have to tweak the chicane by the refreshment tent part way through your race to give people a better choice of lines once the ground started cutting up and a few people started skidding into tapes and stakes! Feedback from other riders has been good, comparisons are being made with the Prospect Park course at Reading, which I'd go along with, except less woodland and without that uber-steep ascent/descent (a barrel of laughs in wet weather....not) that PP has near the finish and pit areas.

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby DavidBelcher » Mon Oct 08, 2012 17:40 pm

Benjamin Hall wrote:Sundays race, Round 3 of the Western league. Not the best result, but it's all good training.

http://ifonlyiwerebelgian.com/2012/10/0 ... s-is-like/


Good blog post there. Not sure I agree with the view that the blokes at the back of the field are solely there for a lark, though - I suffered like anything yesterday just to come 5th or 6th from last out of a field of 30 seniors. Looking back on it, I did enjoy the race however, since I chucked everything I had at it and didn't slacken off at all, so was pleased with my efforts from that point of view. As an added bonus, I found out this afternoon that my endeavours will also be getting a mention plus photo in the local paper (mainly 'cause of being the only senior from the promoting club than actually doing a noteworthy ride; in contrast we did have a decent presence amongst the juniors & vets)! :)

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby simon t » Mon Oct 08, 2012 18:02 pm

Benjamin Hall wrote:Sundays race, Round 3 of the Western league. Not the best result, but it's all good training.

http://ifonlyiwerebelgian.com/2012/10/0 ... s-is-like/



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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby Benjamin Hall » Mon Oct 08, 2012 21:31 pm

simon t wrote:It might be worth getting the tub repaired


I was thinking about that, any ideas as to where?

DavidBelcher wrote:Good blog post there. Not sure I agree with the view that the blokes at the back of the field are solely there for a lark, though - I suffered like anything yesterday just to come 5th or 6th from last out of a field of 30 seniors. Looking back on it, I did enjoy the race however, since I chucked everything I had at it and didn't slacken off at all, so was pleased with my efforts from that point of view. As an added bonus, I found out this afternoon that my endeavours will also be getting a mention plus photo in the local paper (mainly 'cause of being the only senior from the promoting club than actually doing a noteworthy ride; in contrast we did have a decent presence amongst the juniors & vets)! :)


Hello mate, I didnt mean to belittle any riders in any way. There are always some guys there who really are just riding for a laugh. Or at least there have been at the races ive done.

I dont want to break it to you but if you are giving it all youve got to make up places then you fall in to the middle category so its time to buy yourself a skinsuit and some dugasts!

Thanks for reading folks.

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby DavidBelcher » Tue Oct 09, 2012 08:36 am

Benjamin Hall wrote:
simon t wrote:It might be worth getting the tub repaired


I was thinking about that, any ideas as to where?

DavidBelcher wrote:Good blog post there. Not sure I agree with the view that the blokes at the back of the field are solely there for a lark, though - I suffered like anything yesterday just to come 5th or 6th from last out of a field of 30 seniors. Looking back on it, I did enjoy the race however, since I chucked everything I had at it and didn't slacken off at all, so was pleased with my efforts from that point of view. As an added bonus, I found out this afternoon that my endeavours will also be getting a mention plus photo in the local paper (mainly 'cause of being the only senior from the promoting club than actually doing a noteworthy ride; in contrast we did have a decent presence amongst the juniors & vets)! :)


Hello mate, I didnt mean to belittle any riders in any way. There are always some guys there who really are just riding for a laugh. Or at least there have been at the races ive done.

I dont want to break it to you but if you are giving it all youve got to make up places then you fall in to the middle category so its time to buy yourself a skinsuit and some dugasts!

Thanks for reading folks.


No offence taken, I didn't mean to sound deadly serious in my last posting - admittedly I have done a few races where there are other back markers doing cross as a "taster session" and/or purely for fun (plus a few road specialists trying to eke a bit more racing out of the end of their season). Due to my modest income mostly being spent on keeping a roof over my head and stopping the cupboards from being bare, Dugasts are out of my reach for now at least (likewise a pair of "best" tub wheels for racing only). And speaking of tubs, Peter Burgin in Rotherham is your man for repairs - he advertises in the CW small ads pretty much every other week, but now also has a website with a comprehensive price list: http://www.tubular-repairs.com/

Hope the link proves handy.

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Postby Pross » Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:08 am

Anyone riding my club's round of the National Trophy this Sunday? I should be there marshalling in the afternoon and possibly the morning.

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby MikeWW » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:13 pm

Pross wrote:Anyone riding my club's round of the National Trophy this Sunday? I should be there marshalling in the afternoon and possibly the morning.


Yes I will be there. Riding in the Grand Vets so 10.31 am start. Will be in the Lichfield CCC/ZipVit kit. Should be a good day of racing :D

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Postby DavidBelcher » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:25 pm

Hemel Hempstead for me this coming Sunday. Never raced there before, any pointers from hardened Central League campaigners are thus much appreciated....

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby hammerite » Tue Oct 09, 2012 13:51 pm

David, I like the Hemel race. It's a school field, but there's a bank with the usual ups and downs, chicanes and off camber bits. The fun bits are two wooded sections with little bits of single track, and a tricky chicane around a hedge on a slope.

I think I crashed 3 times in my first race there, but really enjoyed it.

The going has been firm the two times I've raced there, although last year I think I remember the grass being damp and slippy. Could be very interesting if muddy!

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby DavidBelcher » Tue Oct 09, 2012 15:38 pm

hammerite wrote:David, I like the Hemel race. It's a school field, but there's a bank with the usual ups and downs, chicanes and off camber bits. The fun bits are two wooded sections with little bits of single track, and a tricky chicane around a hedge on a slope.


Bit like Chiltern Edge School plus a hedge on a slope, then? That sounds OK to me - I always seem to get stuck in at Sonning Common and do OK there, so I should be fine for Sunday!

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby VamP » Wed Oct 10, 2012 07:54 am

Benjamin Hall wrote:Sundays race, Round 3 of the Western league. Not the best result, but it's all good training.

http://ifonlyiwerebelgian.com/2012/10/0 ... s-is-like/



Nice write up. I was able to fix a slightly smaller gash in my FMB Super Mud with Tufo Extreme Sealant. Worth a try before you send off for repair.

From another skinsuit wearing tub riding eternal midfielder :D

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby VamP » Wed Oct 10, 2012 07:58 am

DavidBelcher wrote:
Benjamin Hall wrote:
simon t wrote:It might be worth getting the tub repaired


I was thinking about that, any ideas as to where?

DavidBelcher wrote:Good blog post there. Not sure I agree with the view that the blokes at the back of the field are solely there for a lark, though - I suffered like anything yesterday just to come 5th or 6th from last out of a field of 30 seniors. Looking back on it, I did enjoy the race however, since I chucked everything I had at it and didn't slacken off at all, so was pleased with my efforts from that point of view. As an added bonus, I found out this afternoon that my endeavours will also be getting a mention plus photo in the local paper (mainly 'cause of being the only senior from the promoting club than actually doing a noteworthy ride; in contrast we did have a decent presence amongst the juniors & vets)! :)


Hello mate, I didnt mean to belittle any riders in any way. There are always some guys there who really are just riding for a laugh. Or at least there have been at the races ive done.

I dont want to break it to you but if you are giving it all youve got to make up places then you fall in to the middle category so its time to buy yourself a skinsuit and some dugasts!

Thanks for reading folks.


No offence taken, I didn't mean to sound deadly serious in my last posting - admittedly I have done a few races where there are other back markers doing cross as a "taster session" and/or purely for fun (plus a few road specialists trying to eke a bit more racing out of the end of their season). Due to my modest income mostly being spent on keeping a roof over my head and stopping the cupboards from being bare, Dugasts are out of my reach for now at least (likewise a pair of "best" tub wheels for racing only). And speaking of tubs, Peter Burgin in Rotherham is your man for repairs - he advertises in the CW small ads pretty much every other week, but now also has a website with a comprehensive price list: http://www.tubular-repairs.com/

Hope the link proves handy.

David


Thanks for the link David, gone straight into my bookmarks.

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Re: the Cyclo cross racing post

Postby Pross » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:40 am

MikeWW wrote:
Pross wrote:Anyone riding my club's round of the National Trophy this Sunday? I should be there marshalling in the afternoon and possibly the morning.


Yes I will be there. Riding in the Grand Vets so 10.31 am start. Will be in the Lichfield CCC/ZipVit kit. Should be a good day of racing :D


How did you get on? Looked a good course in the afternoon but I understand it was a bit more muddy early on? The BC officials seemed to think it went well and have asked if we'll do it again next year! It took a fair bit of pulling together and I felt lazy not being there to help in the morning.


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