Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

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Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby Wacka » Fri Oct 05, 2012 20:37 pm

Hi,

I'm looking at upgrading my wheels for better climbing, my budget is £600 - £700 any suggestions? It is for shimano 10 spd.

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Oct 05, 2012 20:46 pm

A bit more information about you?

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby chanjy » Sat Oct 06, 2012 07:53 am

Pretty sure any increase in speed won't be down to the wheels themselves!

Having said that, buy what you want - it's all in the mind, and if a new set of wheels makes you want to go out on your bike more that will make you faster :D

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby Wacka » Sat Oct 06, 2012 08:19 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:A bit more information about you?

I commute 25 miles a day on fairly flat roads, but hit the hills on the weekend 30-50 miles with 5-10% gradients.

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby baldwin471 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 08:51 am

To be honest, and i don't know your weight etc, but dropping 2-3 lbs would be a much more noticeable and effective way of increasing your hill climbing, not to mention way cheaper! But if you are set on getting some new wheels look at some fulcrum racing zero's. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fulcrum-racing- ... lset-2012/

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby mfin » Sat Oct 06, 2012 09:36 am

Well, if you go for Racing Zero's and are buying now then PBK have 15% on their site (code on homepage) and the 'Competition Limited Edition' ones are £770.02 so minus 15% is £654.52 which is a slightly improved version of the wheel for less money than wiggle anyway.

http://www.probikekit.com/uk/components/wheels/road-wheels/fulcrum-racing-zero-competition-limited-edition-wheelset.html
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 11:16 am

Are you guys millionaire?

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby unixnerd » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:11 pm

I do a lot of big hills and light wheels help, so do lighter tyres. Anything around the 1500g a set mark is OK. I run Pro-Lite Braccianos but you might find Shimano RS80s for under 300.
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby mamba80 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 14:19 pm

A DA cl/tl24 would be a far better bet for a factory option, at that price.

Some handbuilts would be better value, but tbh if you want to climb fast you have to train correctly, wheels are a marginal thing really, especially considering your current riding.

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby Mr Dog » Sat Oct 06, 2012 14:48 pm

Power to weight is key. Any light rim with as little flex as possible. I have RS80s and Elites. Both do the job and are all I am willing to spend. I have no experience of handbuilts, but I would guess they would be stiffer.
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby carrock » Sat Oct 06, 2012 17:31 pm

I think when climbing, with every pedal stroke you are accelerating the wheels as you have no momentum, so lighter rims will always be worth it. Certainly when I dropped 1kg from my wheels andd tyres I noticed a big difference climbing/accelerating, not so much on the flat and certainly not downhill.

All those people who say wheels make no difference must spend all their time cycling down a slope

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby carrock » Sat Oct 06, 2012 17:34 pm

baldwin471 wrote:To be honest, and i don't know your weight etc, but dropping 2-3 lbs would be a much more noticeable and effective way of increasing your hill climbing, not to mention way cheaper! But if you are set on getting some new wheels look at some fulcrum racing zero's. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fulcrum-racing- ... lset-2012/


Dropping 2 to 3 pounds? No. That is the same as saying cycling up hills with an empty water bottle makes a difference. It just doesnt.

Dropping half a stone of bodyweight will make a difference. Dropping a stone or 2 will indeed make a noticeable difference

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby baldwin471 » Sat Oct 06, 2012 18:06 pm

carrock wrote:
baldwin471 wrote:To be honest, and i don't know your weight etc, but dropping 2-3 lbs would be a much more noticeable and effective way of increasing your hill climbing, not to mention way cheaper! But if you are set on getting some new wheels look at some fulcrum racing zero's. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fulcrum-racing- ... lset-2012/


Dropping 2 to 3 pounds? No. That is the same as saying cycling up hills with an empty water bottle makes a difference. It just doesnt.

Dropping half a stone of bodyweight will make a difference. Dropping a stone or 2 will indeed make a noticeable difference


I said compared to new wheels. What is going to be more effective, losing 2lbs or losing 200g on wheels?

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby mroli » Sat Oct 06, 2012 19:30 pm

To be fair - you'll also drop a fair whack of cash if you try and lose 200g on wheels which will make you lighter too...

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby Slack » Sun Oct 07, 2012 07:47 am

It's all well and good selecting lighter wheels, but there might no point if said lighter wheels are not stiff enough for your body weight.
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby mamba80 » Sun Oct 07, 2012 08:11 am

carrock wrote:I think when climbing, with every pedal stroke you are accelerating the wheels as you have no momentum, so lighter rims will always be worth it. Certainly when I dropped 1kg from my wheels andd tyres I noticed a big difference climbing/accelerating, not so much on the flat and certainly not downhill.

All those people who say wheels make no difference must spend all their time cycling down a slope


Perhaps they understand more than you do?
From this unscientific study, the extra weight of the wheels made didnt make much more difference than extra weight on the bike, just because something feels faster, it may not relate to faster HC times. also Alpe D is far far longer than anything in the uk, so differences become even less.
As i said, if you want to be fast then you have to up your training, there are no short cuts.
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby Wacka » Sun Oct 07, 2012 09:34 am

baldwin471 wrote:To be honest, and i don't know your weight etc, but dropping 2-3 lbs would be a much more noticeable and effective way of increasing your hill climbing, not to mention way cheaper! But if you are set on getting some new wheels look at some fulcrum racing zero's. http://www.wiggle.co.uk/fulcrum-racing- ... lset-2012/

I'm 90kg so might need a strong wheelset!

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby NapoleonD » Sun Oct 07, 2012 09:53 am

For a 90kg chap, Mavic Ksyrium Elites are about the best thing out there. Lightish, stiff as fook, look good, good spares backup (not that you'll need them).
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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby carrock » Mon Oct 08, 2012 20:42 pm

i am 110kg and find that Rovee Fusee SL ( which weigh less than 1500g ) have never needed truing despite being 20/24 spoke and as light as a balloon

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Re: Wheel upgrades for better climbing speed

Postby smidsy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 04:55 am

carrock wrote:i am 110kg and find that Rovee Fusee SL ( which weigh less than 1500g ) have never needed truing despite being 20/24 spoke and as light as a balloon


Have you fitted them yet :lol:
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