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Doctors waiting room.

Postby pauldavid » Mon Oct 08, 2012 14:26 pm

My mother in law works in a doctors surgery and over the last few months they have had real trouble with people negotiating their way round the waiting room because of the number of patients who come into the building on their mobility scooter as they "simply can't get about without it".

So, at a recent practice H&S meeting the doctors agreed to start asking people what particular ailment was stopping them from entering/leaving the practice on foot(leaving the scooter in the practice car park) if it was not obvious from their records. Those that have no reason not to do so are then asked to park outside as it were.

Within a period of 2 weeks the waiting room is easily negotiated because barely any of the scooters are actually required for any other reason than the rider/driver is basically (a) fat (b) lazy (c) both

Even some of the doctors have commented that these machines are rarely used by those that would have a legitimate reason but more likely the terminally lazy who's only aspiration is to be terminally obese.

What on earth is wrong with this country? :roll:

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Frank the tank » Mon Oct 08, 2012 16:53 pm

I blame these entrepreneurs selling them to all and sundry just to make a quick buck without a single thought for the effect they're having on society. As long as they make their fortune that's alright, I'd have thought that was something you'd have approved of.
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby pauldavid » Mon Oct 08, 2012 19:12 pm

Frank the tank wrote:I blame these entrepreneurs selling them to all and sundry just to make a quick buck without a single thought for the effect they're having on society. As long as they make their fortune that's alright, I'd have thought that was something you'd have approved of.


Have I upset you in some way Frank?

And you can hardly blame someone running a business for selling his stock to someone who wants to buy it! After all, he most likely has a mortgage and bills the same as anyone else.

Surely the problem lies with a section of our society that looks at a product that presumably was designed for the elderly, frail or disabled and decides it's exactly what they need to move their lardy ars* instead of walking anywhere.

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Cleat Eastwood » Mon Oct 08, 2012 19:35 pm

Whats wrong with this country is that people without any visible infirmity are telling those who need help to be mobile to forgo their essential mode of transport because it's a nuisance in a workplace.

Do you think you could tell your mother in law to tell the doctor he\she is cnut - and that the body and mind that is now able will one day be less so -it comes to us all- and nobody, whether in a chair, a scooter, a divan chair or a feckin tardis should ever be considered an inconvenience.

Go on, I dare you, even better, tell us where the surgery is so we can get in touch
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Richard_D » Mon Oct 08, 2012 21:01 pm

Cleat, You haven't been using a mobility scooter at you local surgery have you? :D
Considering how small most Doctors' waiting rooms are and how large some of the mobilty scooters are, I am not surprised that if the doctors surgery has no record of why one is needed they are asking. Not that the OP did not say that the old and infirm were prevented from using them just that a request for information was being asked when they had none on record.
As with anything like this I have seen it abused we makes it harder for those that need it.

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Frank the tank » Tue Oct 09, 2012 04:36 am

pauldavid wrote:
Frank the tank wrote:I blame these entrepreneurs selling them to all and sundry just to make a quick buck without a single thought for the effect they're having on society. As long as they make their fortune that's alright, I'd have thought that was something you'd have approved of.


Have I upset you in some way Frank?

And you can hardly blame someone running a business for selling his stock to someone who wants to buy it! After all, he most likely has a mortgage and bills the same as anyone else.

Surely the problem lies with a section of our society that looks at a product that presumably was designed for the elderly, frail or disabled and decides it's exactly what they need to move their lardy ars* instead of walking anywhere.


No fella, you haven't it's an internet forum we pays our money and makes our choice.

The post was meant to be my stab at irony given views posted elsewhere on here.
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby BowtomePhil » Tue Oct 09, 2012 07:47 am

What is wrong, is that people think they can get away with a pretend illness, back is a good one and get disability and never work.

I know many people with disability payments. It beggars belief some of them.

example A: Fred(not his real name) has the phobia that means he hates open spaces, so him and his wife get disability and everything going. His son started playing football a few years ago, and his dad goes to watch every game. They even had a 4th child so they could get a 4 bedroomed house in a brand new estate. My daughter has a small house and works hard and barely can afford to live.

example B: a woman I know her son has sickle cell, a nasty disease, but affects the poor boy about 4 times a year for a day. She gets disablity payments and bought a brand new car, doesnt work, I can't afford a brand new car.

And don't start me on fat people, they are just lazy and have no self respect. Sorry please don't say they want to lose weight but can't. I notice in London that where there is one fat person, there is normally 2, and usually seen heading for McDonalds.

My mate is 22 stone, i always tell him "Next time you are in town look around, you never see any old fat men"

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Capt Slog » Tue Oct 09, 2012 07:49 am

A lot of people have seen the spaceship passengers in "Wall.E" and regard this as an advert rather than a warning? :D
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby benjboy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 09:23 am

what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Pross » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:13 am

benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


Isn't that the same argument many motorists use regarding cyclists?

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby daviesee » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:07 am

benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).

Quite right.
Get them to pay tax while you are at it. And get the machines safety tested, call it an MOT.
They should not be allowed to go through red lights. Where is the Hi-Viz, the lights, the helmet........ :wink:
None of the above should be taken seriously, and certainly not personally.

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby fast as fupp » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:50 am

BowtomePhil wrote:What is wrong, is that people think they can get away with a pretend illness, back is a good one and get disability and never work.

I know many people with disability payments. It beggars belief some of them.

example A: Fred(not his real name) has the phobia that means he hates open spaces, so him and his wife get disability and everything going. His son started playing football a few years ago, and his dad goes to watch every game. They even had a 4th child so they could get a 4 bedroomed house in a brand new estate. My daughter has a small house and works hard and barely can afford to live.

example B: a woman I know her son has sickle cell, a nasty disease, but affects the poor boy about 4 times a year for a day. She gets disablity payments and bought a brand new car, doesnt work, I can't afford a brand new car.

And don't start me on fat people, they are just lazy and have no self respect. Sorry please don't say they want to lose weight but can't. I notice in London that where there is one fat person, there is normally 2, and usually seen heading for McDonalds.

My mate is 22 stone, i always tell him "Next time you are in town look around, you never see any old fat men"


have you reported these fraudsters to the authorities?
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Gazzaputt » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:57 am

BowtomePhil wrote:What is wrong, is that people think they can get away with a pretend illness, back is a good one and get disability and never work.

I know many people with disability payments. It beggars belief some of them.

example A: Fred(not his real name) has the phobia that means he hates open spaces, so him and his wife get disability and everything going. His son started playing football a few years ago, and his dad goes to watch every game. They even had a 4th child so they could get a 4 bedroomed house in a brand new estate. My daughter has a small house and works hard and barely can afford to live.

example B: a woman I know her son has sickle cell, a nasty disease, but affects the poor boy about 4 times a year for a day. She gets disablity payments and bought a brand new car, doesnt work, I can't afford a brand new car.

And don't start me on fat people, they are just lazy and have no self respect. Sorry please don't say they want to lose weight but can't. I notice in London that where there is one fat person, there is normally 2, and usually seen heading for McDonalds.

My mate is 22 stone, i always tell him "Next time you are in town look around, you never see any old fat men"


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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby benjboy » Tue Oct 09, 2012 19:42 pm

Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


Isn't that the same argument many motorists use regarding cyclists?

True very true but have never seen a bike knock a car over yet :lol:
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Pross » Wed Oct 10, 2012 09:16 am

benjboy wrote:
Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


Isn't that the same argument many motorists use regarding cyclists?

True very true but have never seen a bike knock a car over yet :lol:


Have you seen a mobility scooter knock a car over then?

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby benjboy » Wed Oct 10, 2012 14:21 pm

Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:
Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


Isn't that the same argument many motorists use regarding cyclists?

True very true but have never seen a bike knock a car over yet :lol:


Have you seen a mobility scooter knock a car over then?

No but every scooter i have seen has a FAT person on it,so back to the OPs question, Fat people should be starved or made to go to boot camp :twisted: ....
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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby BowtomePhil » Wed Oct 10, 2012 14:45 pm

And ban them from using Mobile phones so when they are bed ridden, they can't order 10 large pizzas for delivery.

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby tiredofwhiners » Wed Oct 10, 2012 16:18 pm

It all comes down to belief. If you believe 100% of mobility scooters have a disability then you're okay with it. If you don't, then you don't.

Being fat is not actually a disability in itself - its an effect of something else.

The UK has a hugely disproportionate number of mobility scooters - the Daily Wail says 70k of them five years ago and now there are 300k of them. The argument of them being treated the same as bikes isn;t actually an unreasonable one as long as they are propelled by ones own legs. As soon as you put a motor in them, they become three/four wheeled mopeds, and should be taxed, licenced etc accordingly.

Speaking from experience, my wifes great Aunt who almost never went in a car, always used the bus and somehow managed to buy one on her own, and aged 80 had to be 'removed' from the Coventry ring road on her way to the shops.

I like the OP original post - anyone can bring a mobility scooter in, as long as the doctor has prescribed it for a medical ailment, which doesn't have exercise as a part of the cure. If your employer doesn't provide access and you have a medical condition, then they can quite rightly be fined. If you're just fat and/or lazy, they have no obligation and all other businesses should do the same.

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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby DevonClimber » Wed Oct 10, 2012 16:23 pm

benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


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Re: Doctors waiting room.

Postby Pross » Wed Oct 10, 2012 16:29 pm

benjboy wrote:
Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:
Pross wrote:
benjboy wrote:what happens if you are knocked down/run over by one of these things. Do this people have insurance or is it a cause if trying to claim of there house insurance (if they have any ).


Isn't that the same argument many motorists use regarding cyclists?

True very true but have never seen a bike knock a car over yet :lol:


Have you seen a mobility scooter knock a car over then?

No but every scooter i have seen has a FAT person on it,so back to the OPs question, Fat people should be starved or made to go to boot camp :twisted: ....


You don't think that being disabled and therefore being limited in the amount of exercise you can do might assist in creating weight gain then? No doubt there are people who use them out of laziness and the policy the OP describes appears reasonable in that it uses known medical information to determine if the person is allowed to use the scooter in the surgery but in almost any other situation there would be a risk of disability discrimination in preventing these scooters being used (although I'm still unsure why they have become popular rather than traditional wheelchairs or electric wheelchairs).


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