Dave_1 wrote:frenchfighter wrote:Dave_1 wrote:Agree with Gazetta . Barrier more of the road and control traffic and fans in the days leading up to it perhaps? The Alpe is interesting as can as the times might say something about cleanliness of TDF/ the sport in that year.
Barriers appeared much further down Alp D'huez the year after this chaos at 15 minutes 20 seconds which poss cost the rider the stage....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=429nLMSYqCQ
Amount of motos in there is ridiculous and totally unsafe. It still surprises me that these motos are allowed to ride so close and fast to fans. They, along with the stupid cars totally dampen any experience I have had beside the road live.
Yes, it's dangerous for fans and some have been killed by TDF traffice. Is it time for some sort of ticketing to get onto the Alpe? How to make it safer?
That would be a sad day for cycling if ticketing was introduced. One things I like about bike racing compared to other sports is that if you are prepared to turn up early enough, you can watch where you like.
And I'm not sure the business owners on the Alpe would be too happy with restricting fans on the climb. They want fans to turn up. Even better if they are there for a few days or even a week before. It sort of goes against the reason why the Alpe would pay all the money they do to get the race to go there.
Most of the accidents that happen with fans are with the publicity caravan. Kids running out in front of cars to get some free crap of some sort. The caravan doesn't go that fast on the Alpe, don't think there is much of a risk there.
But FF is right about the amount of cars and vans that the Tour uses. When you go and see the race, there are cars going past all day. Do all these people really need to be on the race? Probably not. The ASO could defo do something about that.
The best way to limit the number of people trying to get to the climb is not to make it the focal point of the race. Having it on the Friday as it was in 2011 wasn't a great idea. Galibier stage the day before and Grenoble TT the day after was always going to attract lots of fans due to the close proximity. Spread it all out a bit. Throw in some big stages before and after the Alpe, give the fans something else to go to. Double ascent of the Alpe is a bad idea!