johnfinch wrote:tow - do you realise how much the private sector depends on "parasitic" public sector workers?
Of course - we pay for it. Some of its good, but a lot of its pretty dreadful, or do you think its all perfect ?
johnfinch wrote:How else do you get an educated workforce, with their health cared for, a transport system, health and safety legislation, customs, a legal system, nationwide communications, research and development (particularly all that expensive university research) and a million other things?
You mean a failing education system producing rubbish students, a second rate massively inefficient healthcare system, a collapsing Network rail infrastructure and failing border controls letting millions in who should not be in ? Yeah, its all so good, we're the envy of the world. Give me a German public sector, a French healthcare system and a US border control system over the lot we have here.
There is significantly more R&D done by the private sector than by government, university research is half funded by the private sector and every penny of the public sector funding comes from the private sector tax take. Increasing the cost base of the UK economy by paying the public sector workers more, will not create a single productive job nor will it rescue the economy. Only the private sector will achieve that and its somewhat difficult with the porr public sector we have these days.
johnfinch wrote:If your house is ever burning down, will you tell the fire brigade that they're parasite?
No, but when they go on strike to be allowed to retire at aged 52, on 60% salary, for the next 40 years, having only paid enough money to pay for 10 years, as taxpayer I think I have a right to ask them to pay more - a lot more, and if they refuse, call them parasites then. Please don't tell me its a dangerous job - more Highways Agency workers have died than firemen in the last 20 years.
Lots of folks here spending money they haven't got on people who haven't earned it. You've heard the adage about socialists running out of other folks money ? We've reached that point and your solialist dream just came to an end.
Its why the 80% of the working population who make up the the private sector in the UK fully support a pay freeze for the public sector for at least the next three yaers, and why 65% of the UK population fully agree with capping welfare at £26k maximum.
Time to pay what things are worth and to stop feeding the unproductive elements of the public sector.
People are pissed of with the public sector, not because they cannot make any money out of it, but because they are crap, staffed by people who are unable to do the job and they get paid far more than the productive in society. If all people were paid what they are actually worth, then most of the admin staff in the public sector would starve, doctors would get less, nurses a lot more and those in HMRC and councils would owe us all a lot of money.