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Training wheels

Postby Cookie91 » Mon Oct 22, 2012 20:42 pm

Good evening ladies and gentleman!

Just a little query, i was currently involved in a road accident involving a taxi . Never mind, anywho i have had the bike checked over and all is gravy apart from a cracked headset and a bent front wheel. I was also told the back hub is dead too.
Now i have decided it is time for a new set of wheels, i am after something sturdy and reliable, their main use is going to be training throughout the winter before next season (i will probably race on them too). Now i am just wondering how much should i probably spend on a set and how long wheels usually last (my last set have only lasted me since march)
I am currently looking at a set of Hope Hoops built onto a mavic open pro rims from my local bike shop, i love the sound and they look great and from what i gather they are easily serviceable almost completely replaceable and a good work horse. Just the £300 price tag is slightly off putting if i will get through another set of wheels in another 7-8 months time

Any other wheel set suggestions that i should look at?

(was posted in the buying section, however slight lack of replies)

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Re: Training wheels

Postby ShutUpLegs » Mon Oct 22, 2012 21:11 pm

Lightweight Ventoux, Mavic SLR's
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Re: Training wheels

Postby Tom Dean » Mon Oct 22, 2012 22:19 pm

The lack of replies might be down to the fact this type of question comes up a few times a day on the Buying Advice forum (not so much in 'Training' though :roll: ) Use the search function.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby Cookie91 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 09:10 am

I was expecting a reply like this. Unfortunately the search function doesnt really turn up much on the hope hoops, and the ones it turns up are from 2-3 years ago. If i replied to them i would then have a rant on how i am digging up old threads. :roll:

I would just like an up to date response, should i consider a wheel builder? a big factory wheel or something obvious i have missed?

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Re: Training wheels

Postby daverollo » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:03 am

Similar position to yourself Cookie (apart from the accident). The off the shelf bike I bought doesn't have great wheels on them and I have had to get the spokes 'trued' twice in the last 300 miles, so decided on getting a nice sturdy build for the winter and next season.

LBS recommended Mavic Open Pro's with 36 spokes F&R on Shimano 105 hubs. Can't recall if it is Sapim Race spokes in black or the D-Light. The chap in the shop commutes on his bike daily (all weathers) 35 miles and has had a set on his machine for over 2 years.

No experience of the Hope Hoops, but the general consensus is that spending £200-£300 on a hand built set will be a worthwhile investment.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby Herbsman » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:46 am

daverollo wrote:LBS recommended Mavic Open Pro's with 36 spokes F&R on Shimano 105 hubs.


I would recommend this, either 32 or 36 spokes depending on your weight / component availability. I have 32's but there's no problem having an extra 8 spokes in your wheels and the benefit of the extra strength hugely outweighs any 'drawback' of the extra weight.

I built a pair myself, at a cost of about £160 + the hours taken to build and true. Hubs were about £55 from Chain Reaction, Rims about £60 the pair from Evans (special offer), DT Swiss double butted spokes, brass nipples and Schwalbe rim tape from Rose Bikes, approx £45 including postage. Not sure how much a professional builder would charge but I can't imagine it being more than £200.

They will certainly last longer than 7-8 months - try 2-3 years, possibly longer, depending on how much braking you do and what your annual mileage is.
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Re: Training wheels

Postby Tom Dean » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:49 am

Sorry, I should have said UTSF and give it more than AN HOUR before cluttering up other forums reposting your question.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby Cookie91 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:34 pm

Tom Dean wrote:Sorry, I should have said UTSF and give it more than AN HOUR before cluttering up other forums reposting your question.


Apologies for wishing to make my decision by today because i wish to pick up my bike today from the shop.

I forget that tidy forums are a necessity. :roll:

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Re: Training wheels

Postby Tom Dean » Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:56 pm

Mods, can the rules be amended to allow any users in a wheel buying EMERGENCY to spam the forums with multiple identical threads. Thanks.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby davidof » Tue Oct 23, 2012 16:50 pm

Herbsman wrote:
daverollo wrote:LBS recommended Mavic Open Pro's with 36 spokes F&R on Shimano 105 hubs.


I built a pair myself, at a cost of about £160 + the hours taken to build and true.


Or 149 euros from Andorra

http://www.bikeos.fr/index.php/jeu-de-r ... n-pro.html

with Ultegra hubs rather than 105s.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby Herbsman » Tue Oct 23, 2012 19:47 pm

Blimey, that's cheap.
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Re: Training wheels

Postby Cookie91 » Tue Oct 23, 2012 20:09 pm

Herbsman wrote:Blimey, that's cheap.


Just what i thought. By the way herbsman i love your posts you seem to generate from your wild mind and blog. Thought it would be nice to say! :)

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Re: Training wheels

Postby davidof » Tue Oct 23, 2012 20:50 pm

Herbsman wrote:Blimey, that's cheap.


It is, I got some WH-6700s in the end but I spoke to bikeos on the phone and it all seemed legit. They maybe are not the lightest build ever but would make good trainers. I have a pair of 15 year old Open pros and they are a bomber rim although seemed to suffer some build problems more recently.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby thiscocks » Tue Oct 23, 2012 21:51 pm

Get some ambrosio excellence on ambrosio hubs from the wheelsmith.£300. Much less than that and you can't expect a reliable wheel that will do all you want. I have ambrosio evolutions on ambrosio hubs and they lasted a good 2yrs before a spoke and rear hub bearing went, and that was with a couple of races on them as well as training and commuting. wheels should last longer than 7months if they are half decent.

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Re: Training wheels

Postby smidsy » Wed Oct 24, 2012 05:17 am

Having recently got Ambrosio Excellight rims on Ambrosio (Novatech) hubs with DT Competition spokes (32 front and rear) I can say that they are a lovely ride. Certainly much 'plusher' feeling than the summer wheels I have been using.

Lighter than I was expcting too.
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Re: Training wheels

Postby Herbsman » Wed Oct 24, 2012 13:25 pm

smidsy wrote:Having recently got Ambrosio Excellight rims on Ambrosio (Novatech) hubs with DT Competition spokes (32 front and rear) I can say that they are a lovely ride. Certainly much 'plusher' feeling than the summer wheels I have been using.

Lighter than I was expcting too.

I have a pair of these, and was surprised when not just one but TWO non drive side spokes snapped a few months after I started using them.

Maybe I'm just unlucky, but these were built by a reputable builder. I've never had a spoke snap in any wheel I've built myself!
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