Justifying expensive bikes

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Richie63 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 10:48 am

Oh yes

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Lovin' it every time i go out
I'm going to blow the bank on a new build ( within reason ) NOW DONE!!
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby stubs » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:17 am

Dirty little carbon ***** I bet shes a goer :lol:
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby passout » Sun Nov 04, 2012 15:31 pm

Back to the original post - 'expensive' is a relative term, so the question is flawed.
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Burnside81 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 16:46 pm

passout wrote:Back to the original post - 'expensive' is a relative term, so the question is flawed.



Not really because its relative to other bikes. Bikes range from £50 to £10k roughly so that makes £3k cheap! :lol:

Seriously though, why do so many people seem to want to shoot the OP down? To me it seems like a fairly sensible question to ask to provoke a bit of discussion.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby bennett_346 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 17:14 pm

It's an attack on people with money, and we're having a go at him for feeling like he needs to justify being poor.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Northwind » Sun Nov 04, 2012 17:24 pm

I don't have any money. Spent it all on titanium mountain bikes!
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Burnside81 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 18:12 pm

bennett_346 wrote:It's an attack on people with money, and we're having a go at him for feeling like he needs to justify being poor.


Weren't we all poor at 17?! (I'm guessing based on his username)

I still find it an interesting question myself.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby bennett_346 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 18:51 pm

Burnside81 wrote:
bennett_346 wrote:It's an attack on people with money, and we're having a go at him for feeling like he needs to justify being poor.


Weren't we all poor at 17?! (I'm guessing based on his username)

Yeah? How does that invalidate what i said?

I never asked people how they could justify their more expensive bikes though, nor did i try to convince them they shouldnt have them. Its rude at best.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Burnside81 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 19:01 pm

I'm not trying to invalidate what anybody says, just having a chat. I come in peace.
People seem to be being over defensive.

When I read the OP it seems he's asking people to tell him how much better a £1500 bike will be than his current £500 one. Maybe I'm wrong and he is an offensive little bastard. Maybe he can chime in and let us know! :lol:

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby JayKay3000 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:00 pm

I was thinking about getting a trance x for 2k, but we'll see how I heal post crash (early days yet). I struggle to find bikes the right size and end up getting forced into the higher price bracket (6ft 7), but have the money so I don't 'feel' forced.

See all sorts of bikes on the trail and I could care less how much they paid for it, what condition it's in or how much bling it has on it. If they're enjoying the trails as much as I am then that's all that matters.

If u've got it then use it otherwise buy what you can afford because you can't buy bike skill.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby adrenalinemunki » Mon Nov 05, 2012 18:44 pm

I think the more you do something you love, the easier it is to justify chucking cash at it...

I bought my Rockhopper last year for 600 quid which felt like a lot of money... over the course of a year (and using it once if not twice a week consistently) I have chucked a fair bit more than that at it on upgrades, it now has full SLX, a reverb seatpost, reba forks, phenom saddle, the list goes on and every upgrade felt noticeable and well worth it... My next bike will no doubt be £2500 upwards, I think for most people the amount they are willing to chuck at it (in proportion to affordability) usually comes down to their enjoyment of the sport (rather than ability, certainly the case for me as I'm still pretty pants).

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Roostoids » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:05 am

I like the post, because it is interesting to consider what you spend on a hobby and how you justify it to yourself.

If you're drowning in cash enough to not give a 2nd thought to any purchase you make or item you want, great for you, most people I know have to at least consider the cost side of it, and generally we weigh it up against a few factors;

1 - Will it look fashizzle on my nizzle?

2 - Will it 100% make me three times faster immediately just by being near my bike?

3 - When I crash and break it, will I buy another one the same or a cheaper replacement?

4 - Will I get anywhere close to outperforming the kit at my level of skill?

5 - Do I really need it?

The answers are obviously;
1 - Yes

2 - Yes of course

3 - Yes. If not i might not ride 100% and what's the point of riding conservatively because you're afraid of damaging your stuff. Most of the fun on a bike comes when you're pushing the edge of your ability, that inevitably comes at a price of falling off now and then, which means you WILL damage your kit. If you're scared to damage your kit, you'll ride slower and not get the full enjoyment. Man that was deep :roll:

4 - No. I will never be as good a rider as my bike is capable of carrying. I have no doubt a pro could jump on my bike and do stuff that would make my eyes fall out but I'll never get anywhere near that level so spending oddles of money to make my bike 'better' is a moot point...I won't be able to really access that 'better-ness' because of my riding ability. If however, questions 1 and 2 apply, then it's probably worth getting anyway :P

5 - Do I need it, of course I do. It's bike shiny
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Roostoids » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:07 am

Richie63 wrote:Oh yes

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Lovin' it every time i go out



Oh and Richie63...

N I C E !
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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Lagrange » Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:20 am

I saw a flash blue porsche with a sticker on the back which said 'My other car is a Porsche'.

I thought that was funny!

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby adrenalinemunki » Wed Nov 07, 2012 13:06 pm

What is that lovely bike on the bikestand I can't read the side... Looks a bit zesty like?

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Paulkingk » Sat Nov 10, 2012 19:52 pm

Ride a £1500 Hardtail for a week then go back to your £575 hardtail
You may not be able to afford it but I guarantee you the £1500 hardtail will have justified its self

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby bluechair84 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 20:42 pm

Paulkingk wrote:Ride a £4500 Hardtail for a week then go back to your £1500 hardtail
You may not be able to afford it but I guarantee you the £4500 hardtail will have justified its self

It's a manta that doesn't work across all price brackets though ;)

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Paulkingk » Sat Nov 10, 2012 20:50 pm

Thats true but for the sake of the original question I think it's a valid point

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby Burnside81 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 22:18 pm

I'd say the scale is something like this

A £500 bike is 200% better than a £250 bike
A £1000 bike is 100% better than a £500 bike
A £2000 bike is 50% better than a £1000 bike
A £4000 bike is 25% better than a £2000 bike
A £8000 bike is 25% better than a £4000 bike

The better a bike gets the more it costs to improve it, even slightly.

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Re: Justifying expensive bikes

Postby bennett_346 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 22:30 pm

Is that mathematically calculated is it?


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