Long travel fork, short travel frame?

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Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby mikezer0 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:21 pm

Evening,

I've been thinking about getting a new frame and I remember a while ago Ragley were hyping up some mismatched fork/shock travel frames... Did anything come of them? Or does anyone have any suggestions? Mostly riding in the Peak District, so needs to pedal fairly well but strong enough to smash down rocky descents.

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby The Northern Monkey » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:26 pm

There are quite a few out there...

Orange blood was 130mm rear travel and 160mm front travel...

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby supersonic » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:27 pm

My preferred FS set up is this - I run my FSR XC ith 140mm out front and 120mm at the back.

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby felix.london » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:51 pm

I'm setting out to build a big hitter with 180mm front, 160mm rear
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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby mikezer0 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:54 pm

I was thinking 100mm at the back and 140mm forks.

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby supersonic » Sat Nov 03, 2012 19:56 pm

Does depend on the frame, not all can take a longer fork. Mine should only be 130mm really!

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Sat Nov 03, 2012 20:01 pm

My next bike (Giant Trance) will have 120mm rear, 140mm front.
GT do quite a nice hardcore trail bike with 120mm (ish) rear and 150mm front.

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby welshkev » Sat Nov 03, 2012 20:06 pm

http://www.ns-bikes.com/2012/frames-and ... slope.html

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby Proutster » Sat Nov 03, 2012 20:12 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:My next bike (Giant Trance) will have 120mm rear, 140mm front.
GT do quite a nice hardcore trail bike with 120mm (ish) rear and 150mm front.


Exactly like mine, Revelation RLTs stepped down to 140mm on the front and standard, listed as 120mm but is actually 127mm, on the rear - feels perfect for those Peak district rocky descents!!

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby 97th choice » Sun Nov 04, 2012 08:01 am

RockmonkeySC wrote:My next bike (Giant Trance) will have 120mm rear, 140mm front.
GT do quite a nice hardcore trail bike with 120mm (ish) rear and 150mm front.


If it's a newer trance it will be 127 rear.
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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:45 am

97th choice wrote:
RockmonkeySC wrote:My next bike (Giant Trance) will have 120mm rear, 140mm front.
GT do quite a nice hardcore trail bike with 120mm (ish) rear and 150mm front.


If it's a newer trance it will be 127 rear.


I prefer the 2010 frames. The newer ones should be better but I just like the feel of the old one

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby paul.skibum » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:30 pm

I assume you mean the frames mentioned here http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Nukeproof-and-Ragley-Eurobike-2011.html I thought these looked good at the time but they don't seem to have made it to the Ragley website or production which suggests that having built some prototypes they either received little interest or they rode like a bag of the proverbial.

Common enough mismatching of fork to rear travel - slopestyle bikes do it a fair bit and I think it makes sense for downhill oriented rides, I'd always be tempter to have the front fork adjustable to wind down the front for longer climbs though.
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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby Northwind » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:50 pm

I love my Hemlock, 160mm up front, 120mm rear. When you think about it, there's no reason to assume that matched travel is best- both wheels are doing different jobs, and the actual suspension systems are completely different.
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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby paul.skibum » Mon Nov 05, 2012 17:45 pm

For sure and if you are a hardtail fan a short travel rear with a suspension setup that stiffens through the travel would be quite appealing which is how they set up things like the Pivot M4X and the P.Slope etc - slope style FS bikes designed to appeal to dirt jumpers who like hardtails but are going big so need a little something out the back.

I run my Heckler with the forks up to 115mm from time to time (rear is 100mm) but I find as it wasnt really designed for that and the rear travel isnt as supple as the front it can tend to dive and alter the angles rather dramatically with a sudden hit!
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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Mon Nov 05, 2012 19:57 pm

I quite like the look of the new Nukeproof Mega TR. 130mm rear / 150mm front and nice aggressive geometry. Should be fun.
I have had a bike with odd suspension before, 170mm rear / 160mm front. I have ridden a Cove DH bike with 250mm rear / 200 mm front. You couldn't tell the difference in front / rear travel. Shorter rear travel should have less pedal bob.

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Re: Long travel fork, short travel frame?

Postby paul.skibum » Mon Nov 05, 2012 21:41 pm

Yeah the TR looks perfect for what I want - fork 140-160 on that, tough as old boots - u turn air maxle fork, air rear shock, decent wheel build and a couple of pairs of tyres depending where you are riding that day. Sweeet.

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