No energy left in legs on climbs...

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T.M.H.N.E.T
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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Sun Nov 04, 2012 19:54 pm

Dazza Doom wrote:guys, if i could take a slight twist on this thread, i have similar issues except its my lungs that are burning mad before my legs even get to a stressful state. Im panting like an old dog by the time i get to the top.

Would the advice above of training more, and harder apply here as well?

More than likely yes. But you need to give a little more info.

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby b45her » Mon Nov 05, 2012 18:25 pm

a basic rule of thumb is.

if your lungs are screaming and legs are fine push a higher gear at lower cadence

if your lungs are fine and your legs are screaming push a lower gear at a higher cadence .
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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby Bartimaeus » Mon Nov 05, 2012 20:42 pm

I don't have a sports science background, but I am 50, a mountain biker for less than 3 years, and as my local loop has plenty of climbing in it I can sympathise with you!

If it's the steeper climbs (say15+%) that are hurting then one thing I would suggest is doing some training on the 'less steep' climbs (say 5-10%)... when you've found one that you can pedal up comfortably in a low gear, train by pushing yourself in a slightly higher gear. Repeat until that higher gear is the comfortable gear - and then up your gearing once again. It's easier and more rewarding training this way, rather than endlessly struggling.

Don't avoid the steep climbs altogether though - a large part of climbing seems to me to be psychological... once you 'know' you can clear a climb you'll be able to do it even when you are dead tired.

I also find that Strava is excellent as a training tool for climbing!

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby sammysideways » Mon Nov 05, 2012 21:16 pm

out of intrest, would deadlifts help with this? reason i ask is i love doing deadlifts and im intrested if it would help

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Tue Nov 06, 2012 04:26 am

sammysideways wrote:out of intrest, would deadlifts help with this? reason i ask is i love doing deadlifts and im intrested if it would help

Nope

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby Dimme » Mon Nov 19, 2012 07:46 am

I have the same problem. I have a good condition but everytime a need to take a steep climb... I explode.

I always get up, that's no issue at all but I always need 20 seconds to get my breathing and feeling in the legs normal again.

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby dsmith682 » Fri Feb 01, 2013 09:39 am

If you pick a hilly route and cycle it every second day for a month you're legs and lungs will

soon get used to it, this way you can increase gradually session to session

Here is a training program I found on squidoo http://www.squidoo.com/a-good-cycling-training-plan-for-beginners-part-1

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby theshrew » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:06 am

Yes mate the more you do something the better you will get as long as your not just out for a gentle tootle about you will make gains. Most of all enjoy yourself.

I went to Delamere yesterday ive not been on my bike for ages due to Mrs working weekends now ;-( it was a complete mud fest off the fire roads. My legs feel like ive been run over today and i dont think ive ever been so muddy but i loved every min of it even when i fell off lol

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby iDad » Fri Mar 08, 2013 15:41 pm

I can vouch for the more training/riding the more improvement you’ll see.

My shed got broke in to in 2011 and my trusty old “Clumber park/Sherwood forest leisure riding” bike a full sus 2004 Carrera Banshee was stolen with all my tools while I was not at the house.

It took ages for the insurance to pay out but when they did I looked around and managed to pick up an almost mint condition 2007 Specialized FSR XC for less than £400 off fleabay. Since then I’ve been getting more and more into the single track riding.

Up until this year the most I’ve MTB’d locally is a 16mile route around north notts area and the red route at Sherwood pines the odd weekend. Nothing too difficult

But this year I’ve committed myself and a couple of mates to do a round of the MTB Marathon Series at Marshbrook, Shropshire in July. http://www.mtb-marathon.co.uk 47mile (75K) XC
I’ve been to a couple of rounds with a catering company I was doing a spot of weekend driving to help a friend out. I had no idea those sort of events were about and chatting to a number of the people riding they were from racers to guys/girls who enjoy just getting out at a weekend on the bike.
So from the Xmas break I’ve started some serious training, when I can’t get out on the bike through the week I’ve been doing half hour on a cross trainer and have worked up to an hour n half on a multigym. I do this 4 out of 5 nights per week and try and get out on the bike sat or sun with friends.
I have to say motivation has always been the biggest struggle for me training at home, but this event I’ve entered has really given me the motivation to train….i don’t want to make a total “tw*t” of myself on the event basically lol!

The biking has increased from 16miles to 37miles last weekend, fitness is definitely improving, I’m still shattered climbing the hills but I’m recovering quicker as well. Also noticing the average speed mapped is increasing.
When I started mapping my rides using the Map my ride app on the iphone I was averaging 7.7mph over 16miles….i’m now at week 10 of my training and averaged 9.1mph over the 37miles on harder hills and longer route.

I’m 41, 6’2 and was about 17st, although I’m not seen any weight loss so far I have seen 3” off my waistline…and I’m not as flabby as I was when I started.
I’m feeling quite good about the training and I’m hoping the progress continues through to july and beyond.
The bank balance has seen a bit of a battering though, upgrading tires and brakes so far on the bike with a few other “cheap” tweaks required before july comes.

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Re: No energy left in legs on climbs...

Postby eddys » Sun Jan 12, 2014 06:19 am

Breathing is very important. If you don't have a good pattern of breathing using deep breath from the diaphragm then you may see a massive and quick improvement just by getting that nailed.


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