Winter Training???

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boylan1997
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Winter Training???

Postby boylan1997 » Sun Nov 04, 2012 21:52 pm

I have just started Mountain Biking and want to start
training...but its Winter and I have no idea where to
start so I am looking for an effective winter training
timetable like the one below as an example..........


MONDAY - spinning for 10 mins...plank for 5mins 2reps...sit ups 50 reps
TUESDAY- spinning for 20mins...plank for 5mins 5reps....etc

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby njee20 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 09:21 am

What do you want to achieve?

You can do much worse than just ride your bike. The season is fairly irrelevant.

There are no 'hard and fast' training plans that will work for you.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:03 pm

As above, but a bit simpler.
Just ride.
For god's sake just ride :lol:

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:32 pm

What about the other 5 days? Do you actually ride a bike?

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby njee20 » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:35 pm

Do you know you're one of few posters on here who I think are really quite unpleasant. Every post seems to be a snide dig at someone. Does it make you feel better about yourself?

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby T.M.H.N.E.T » Mon Nov 05, 2012 16:44 pm

njee20 wrote:Do you know you're one of few posters on here who I think are really quite unpleasant. Every post seems to be a snide dig at someone. Does it make you feel better about yourself?

I looked at the post, didn't see the answers so I asked questions.

Where precisely is the harm in doing that?

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby b45her » Mon Nov 05, 2012 18:30 pm

there's no substitute for just getting miles in your legs. just ride lots and forget about flashy training plans.
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Re: Winter Training???

Postby boylan1997 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 17:04 pm

njee20 wrote:What do you want to achieve?

You can do much worse than just ride your bike. The season is fairly irrelevant.

There are no 'hard and fast' training plans that will work for you.


as you are the only one that seems to be able to help me i will explain further....
I would like to achieve a good fitness level for the 2013 racing season as i am quite
unfit, yeh i know the season if fairly irrelevant but as it is very cold and miserable
i am unable to get out on the bike so i would like to do some indoor training as i have a home gym with an excersice bike a treadill ad some other equipment...I have a full sus mtb and am just after recovering
from an injury on the bike.....i started mtb about 3-4 months ago.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby camerauk » Tue Nov 06, 2012 17:55 pm

Maybe some long steady miles on indoor bike to get some base fitness would help maybe 2/3hours at a steady pace, will be boring but from what I have heard thats good (although I am def no expert so could be complete rubbish )
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Re: Winter Training???

Postby Jimboliana » Tue Nov 06, 2012 18:31 pm

Quality book to buy that will help you in your winter training is 'The Mountain Biker's Training Bible' by Joe Friel if you can get yourself a heart rate monitor (power meter would be better but heart rate monitors are cheap) it will help you know what training zones you will be in

Don't get me wrong loads of people will say you 'don't need a heart rate monitor, if it feels hard then it is' but if you want to get the most out of the time you have and do some training that will make a difference for next season then that would be my advice. You have to mix it up with long rides at lower heart rate, intervals, high and low cadance.

I have only been riding a year, I started racing and was coming more or less last in (142nd out of 146 last year in the Thetford Winter Series!!!) I had a couple of months out when I shattered my wrist but I have a turbo trainer and was on that as i couldn't get out, my fitness has improved 10 fold and is getting better all the time

Good luck

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby boylan1997 » Tue Nov 06, 2012 19:59 pm

Thank you camerauk and Jimboliana for the great advice...will defo take it onboard

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby grawp » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:34 pm

I've got a really good system that works great for winter training.
Have a bike ready and loads of good quality technical clothing. If you've got some new waterproof shoes then you're going to want to try them right? Also fit some decent lights so night rides with your mates become an option.

I enjoy turbo sesions. Plan a treat like a film or some tv episodes or even better make a music playlist. Then dim the lights and start off for half an hour of really easy peddling. After that the endorphins will start to kick in and then you can embark in a longer easy session or up the resitance and envisage future glory.
If you are not in the mood after half an hour then grab a shower and a glass of wine and don't beat yourself up about it.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Wed Nov 07, 2012 23:18 pm

I don't understand why anyone would go on a turbo trainer. You're got a bike, go outside and play.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby Psychotext » Thu Nov 08, 2012 01:23 am

Time (and enjoyment). I could do two hours on a TT and watch a film at the same time. Get off the bike, get in the shower, job done.

By comparison, I'd be looking at a half an hour drive to my nearest trail, getting the gear together / cleaned, getting soaked when out there, bike covered in mud, freezing cold... All told I'd probably lose four hours (or more depending on what I need to do the bike afterwards) for a two hour ride. That's not time I have to spare.

Don't get me wrong, I get out at least once a week without fail, but if it's about fitness then sometimes time on the TT makes much more sense.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Nov 08, 2012 08:11 am

So go for a road blast on your bike. Instead of messing about indoors for an hour, go and play outside for an hour.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby pilch » Thu Nov 08, 2012 09:40 am

YeehaaMcgee wrote:So go for a road blast on your bike. Instead of messing about indoors for an hour, go and play outside for an hour.


I do both, but the turbo is more controllable for specific efforts, i.e. targeting specific heart rate zones especially if you have limited time.
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Re: Winter Training???

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:49 am

Are you saying that the turbo trainer doesn't represent riding a bike?

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby pilch » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:12 am

In terms of dodging traffic, stopping and starting, steering input, road surface, rain, snow, ice, mud, changing gradients then yes - I would say that it doesn't represent riding a bike.

As a fitness and training aid however, there are times when you may wish to ride consistently in specific heart rate and/or power zones, cadences etc then i's a great tool for the job as the only thing you need to worry about is hitting the numbers, depends how seriously you take your training I guess.
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Re: Winter Training???

Postby Psychotext » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:31 am

YeehaaMcgee wrote:So go for a road blast on your bike. Instead of messing about indoors for an hour, go and play outside for an hour.

I don't do road riding any more. The drivers near me seem to be a special brand of c*nt and in the past I've been clipped, sworn at, had things thrown at me and had passengers attempt to push me when going past.

Under similar situations these days I'd be likely to kill someone. Not my idea of fun, though even aside from that I don't really see the appeal of road riding generally anyway. I really would rather be indoors watching a film than doing that, even without the arsehole drivers.

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Re: Winter Training???

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:50 am

If you'd rather be indoors in the warm watching a film, then I have to question what attracts you to cycling anyway.


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