Lance Armstrong gets life ban,loses 7 TDF,confesses he doped

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Richmond Racer » Tue Nov 13, 2012 09:02 am

iainf72 wrote:Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.



Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby mike6 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 17:06 pm

mfin wrote:
sherer wrote:LA posted a tweet about Vets day that came through to my facebook feed. he hda about 400 comments and most of them all seemed to support him still. Seems some people can't see the wood for the trees


In America he'll have plenty of support left, cos a lot of Lance supporters don't want to listen, a lot of them believe the man is good. In America where he's an a-list celebrity, the sheer profile of the man and the soundbites about cancer are enough for the masses surely. So its no surprise that people sound positive on fb, plus the fact that fb really works on positivity in general?

I remember seeing a survey of Americans, just a few 1000 or something, and it was taken around the time of the first week of the second Iraq war. Over half of them in the survey thought Saddam Hussein was 'personally involved in 9/11'. hmmmmmmm. Perhaps the same people surveyed knew a lot more about a-list Celebrities, Id rather they knew more about why their country was going to war though.


Yes, the Yanks seem to lap up what they are force fed by the media and the government of the time.
Its the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, but only if you toe the "American" line. The Dixie Chicks found this out when they spoke out against the war in Iraq. They were vilified, sent hate mail and death threats. Having there recordings burned etc.
Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby ShinyHelmut » Wed Nov 14, 2012 07:03 am

Richmond Racer wrote:
iainf72 wrote:Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.



Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/


Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby sherer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 07:53 am

I get the feeling all the comments, both positive and negative, still help to feed his ego and make him feel he's still somebody

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby iainf72 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 08:19 am

mike6 wrote:Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.


Remind me who took down Armstrong then?

Yes, it was the Americans.
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby No tA Doctor » Wed Nov 14, 2012 08:47 am

Richmond Racer wrote:
iainf72 wrote:Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.



Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/


Oh God. I read the comments. I knew I shouldn't have, but I did. Someone shoot me now please.
“Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby ThomThom » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:13 am

ShinyHelmut wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:
iainf72 wrote:Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.



Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/


Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.


Doping before and after having cancer seems pretty stupid to me.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby mike6 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:29 am

iainf72 wrote:
mike6 wrote:Also the Americans tend to look after there own, regardless of there faults or behaviour. Think Michael Jackson and OJ. Simpson.


Remind me who took down Armstrong then?

Yes, it was the Americans.


Oh yes, I know that Iain.

I was trying to answer a post that said lots of Americans were still very much pro Lance, despite his cheating and lying.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby mididoctors » Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:29 am

the yanks should be given credit for having a good go at clearing up this mess
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Paul 8v » Wed Nov 14, 2012 13:21 pm

There still seems to be a sense of denial with the general public over there but fair play to the USADA for taking him down.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby dennisn » Wed Nov 14, 2012 14:55 pm

ShinyHelmut wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:
iainf72 wrote:Photo is a marketing stunt for his new investment (Mobili or whatever)

And it worked by the looks of things.



Indeed. The man is as cunning as a cartload of monkeys

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovi ... s-traffic/


Whatever you might think of him he's certainly not stupid.


Once again, here we have someone who, for whatever reason, wants to credit LA with being something he's not. He was a guy who cheated at sport for fame and fortune. Nothing unusual or overly brilliant there. He took drugs that a cancer victum most likely shouldn't have. You can call that smart if you like. He most likely believed he wouldn't get caught and or felt the risk was worth it. How does that translate into smart? Sounds like a whole bunch of people in sports who have been busted.
I'm getting the opinion that whole bunches of people feel the need to make him into some sort of James Bond adversary(the Dr. No or Goldfinger of cycling). Lots of people were simply fooled or suckered, just like you were, by a simple cheat / scam and not a criminal mastermind. Many people need LA to be this world dominating person because they feel badly that they themselves got taken in by it all and that doesn't sit well with their ego's. No one wants to think that they were fooled by a simple scam artist. Sorry about your luck, or should I say poor judgement, but you got owned. Don't feel bad though, you're in good company.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby ddraver » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:06 pm

You really are an outstanding troll dennis! Your fact twisting/ignoring rivals even Fox News!

In many ways I want to say keep it up, there's a morbid joy in watching how you do it and how you justify it.
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:08 pm

dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby disgruntledgoat » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:16 pm

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:31 pm

disgruntledgoat wrote:Apologies if posted already... but I never knew that about MacQuaid.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/eamon-sweeney-mcquaid-still-blaming-everyone-else-3276782.html



Yes. Which is also why its so bloody outrageous that he is allowed to have the role he does in the IOC.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby dennisn » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:36 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull


I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby dennisn » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:41 pm

ddraver wrote:You really are an outstanding troll dennis! Your fact twisting/ignoring rivals even Fox News!



Here in the States it's not refered to as Fox News all that much. More likely to be called Fox Entertainment.

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby Richmond Racer » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:42 pm

dennisn wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull


I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.



Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

I didnt follow Armstrong through those 7 years, so how has my ego been deflated, how have I been scammed? Here's a surprise for you dennis...many British and Europeans didnt actually 'follow' him. Amaze, I know :roll: Over here across the water, frankly his steam-rolling dominance in the Tour was dull and monotonous - and besides, European racing has always had a lot more to offer than just the Tour, so he really didnt mean very much to many of us. When he finally retired first time, the emotion felt by most split into the one of the two camps of 'meh' and 'good riddance.'

You continually confuse British and European cycling fans with US fans, most of whom did indeed invest a great deal in the Armstrong myth.

What a silly person you are to make such patronising but oh such so ill-informed judgements and fail to understand such fundamental difference.

EDIT: edited above to make things even easier for dennis to try to understand. doubt it will meet with success.
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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby No tA Doctor » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:54 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:
dennisn wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull


I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.



Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.

I didnt follow Armstrong through those 7 years, so how has my ego been deflated, how have I been scammed? Here's a surprise for you dennis...many Europeans didnt actually 'follow' him. Amaze, I know :roll: You continually confuse European cycling fans with US ones.

What a silly person you are.


+1

But it doesn't matter how many times you tell him that. Despite the fact that he's never had a beer with us he's happy to do some cod psychology on us, based on various made up facts about our past.
“Road racing was over and the UCI had banned my riding positions on the track, so it was like ‘Jings, crivvens, help ma Boab, what do I do now? I know, I’ll go away and be depressed for 10 years’.”

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Re: Lance Armstrong stripped of 7 TDF wins,gets lifetime ba

Postby dennisn » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:57 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:
dennisn wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:dennis, why do you bother posting the same thing over and over again?

its repetitive, adds nothing to any exchange, and is exceedingly dull


I post "over and over" to let everyone know that, in my opinion, most of you are just angry because you got owned. Sorry about your ego's being deflated. I know how that goes, but you need to "get over it" as the saying goes. I know it's sort of dull but so is carrying a grudge, for years on end, because you got taken in by a scammer. And I will continue to remind you of this simply because you continue to carry this load of guilt about thinking you've been made a fool of.



Same old, same old. You make these sweeping assumptions and generalisations with fark all to back it up as to how 'we' feel.



So how do you feel then? And don't give me that BS about "we are simply curious". Way too much name calling, finger pointing, looking for dirt on anyone, and accusations galore for all this to be simple curiousity. No. Anger, hate, jealousy, and vengence seem to be the driving factors here.


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