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Finlaz22
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Interesting...

Postby Finlaz22 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 19:48 pm

In my opinion, biggest upgrade you can make is getting clipless pedals/shoes and some lycra shorts/bibs + jersey. Compared to before when using toe-clips and 'normal sport gear' my average speed has gone from 16.1mph over a regular 40 mile course to 18.3mph! 8)

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Sprool » Tue Nov 13, 2012 21:14 pm

blimey thats quick, with that sort of average speed over 40 miles you should be banned from the beginners section;)

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Bozman » Tue Nov 13, 2012 21:18 pm

Buy some Assos gear and you'll be knocking on a 20mph average.

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Finlaz22 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 21:27 pm

It's not exactly a leisurely route :wink: bit more all or nothing, but yeah besides the point. I have just been :shock: at how much of an improvement lycra + clipless make

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Simon Masterson » Tue Nov 13, 2012 21:42 pm

I would attribute some of that to psychology; you will certainly feel much faster in lycra. Not to mention that you should be much more comfortable in shorts with a proper pad! But it is entirely true that lycra in preference to 'baggy' clothing will make you quicker. Not that much quicker (singly), though.

But I'm assuming that you're referring to toe clips with loose straps and trainers, rather than tightened straps and cleated shoes, which are needed to maximise the effectiveness of clips and straps. ;)

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Re: Interesting...

Postby karlth » Tue Nov 13, 2012 23:54 pm

I found it more comfortable, but saw almost bugger all improvement in speed.

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Simon Masterson » Wed Nov 14, 2012 00:10 am

karlth wrote:I found it more comfortable, but saw almost bugger all improvement in speed.


Which is about what most people will experience. The difference between 16mph and 18mph at 40 miles is over 15 minutes; just shoes and spandex alone will not do that!

For what it's worth I don't remember noticing a notable performance difference between scrappy old trainers (with clips and straps) and SPD shoes (also with clips and straps); just a more positive feel.

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Re: Interesting...

Postby ChrisAOnABike » Wed Nov 14, 2012 01:28 am

Simon Masterson wrote:The difference between 16mph and 18mph at 40 miles is over 15 minutes; just shoes and spandex alone will not do that!

Wind might, over one trip?
Is the gorilla tired yet?

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Briggo » Wed Nov 14, 2012 07:38 am

Finlaz22 wrote:In my opinion, biggest upgrade you can make is getting clipless pedals/shoes and some lycra shorts/bibs + jersey. Compared to before when using toe-clips and 'normal sport gear' my average speed has gone from 16.1mph over a regular 40 mile course to 18.3mph! 8)


You should work in testing, your report is unquestionable.

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Trev The Rev » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:29 am

Tests by Dr Andrew Coggan show no difference between clipless pedals, toe clips & straps or trainers on flat pedals.

http://www.academia.edu/238318/Coyle_EF ... _2622-2630

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Re: Interesting...

Postby daveski12 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:54 am

WIsh I noticed that much of a difference when I first used clipless!

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Finlaz22 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:09 am

I'm incredibly surprised by the increase in speed too. It was my first run of that route with clipless etc so certainly could be attributed to wind, having a good day and other factors. The previous average speed was actually the previous average over that route but having done it dozens of times I've never broken a 17mph average. The difference in feel was substantial but the increase speedwise seemed almost surreal. Anyway, have a good ride today people, just got back - wee bit icey out there!

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Re: Interesting...

Postby Finlaz22 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:16 am

Briggo wrote:
Finlaz22 wrote:In my opinion, biggest upgrade you can make is getting clipless pedals/shoes and some lycra shorts/bibs + jersey. Compared to before when using toe-clips and 'normal sport gear' my average speed has gone from 16.1mph over a regular 40 mile course to 18.3mph! 8)


You should work in testing, your report is unquestionable.


Haha, I'll consider it ;) but seriously, it was set up to be an unjustified statement - as in would this really make that much of a difference as it's shown in that single run? I was unsure, and with others suggesting factors that could also influence speed it makes more sense

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Re: Interesting...

Postby keef66 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:18 am

ChrisAOnABike wrote:
Simon Masterson wrote:The difference between 16mph and 18mph at 40 miles is over 15 minutes; just shoes and spandex alone will not do that!

Wind might, over one trip?


Well I had quite bad wind last night, and over the course of the ride I estimate that any additional propulsive effect was completely negated by the momentary loss in pedalling efficiency each time I had to stand up to let one rip.


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