New Ribble Steel 525 frame

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Simmo72
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New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Simmo72 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 13:07 pm

A note to anyone looking to buy this frame.

It looked ideal, good value, steel, carbon fork and came with a nice classic paint job, my new winter/commuting bike in waiting. Before ordering I check the geo with Ribble and they confirmed the head tube size (Important to me because I’m 6ft 4). I was advised the frame has the same geometry at the sportive racing, a 58CM has a 200mm head tube.

When it arrived I could see the head tube looked short. Rather than 200mm it was 160mm, a huge difference. I have taken this up with Ribble and they have agreed the sizing was different to what was advertised so a full refund was given but I’m left feeling rather disappointed.

The frame and paint job look great, ok, its 525 tubing so it’s not exactly lightweight but I don’t really care, I wanted a steel frame to get me through the winters and for £250 including forks it is a good price.

Also, I can’t fault Ribble. They delivered the bike in 7 working days, they responded quickly to my problem and were very apologetic and processed the refund quickly. I’m still not sure if it was intentional to build a 58CM with a 59CM top tube and a 16cm head tube for people who are 6ft 2+, its seems very extreme especially as they are promoted as a winter/audax frame. Maybe there is a market for people who like to get hit in the face by their knees when pedalling?

Anyway this is just to alert folks, if you are buying one, call to make sure of the geometry. maybe the shorter than normal headtube isn't on all sizes. If it fits you then you are getting a good frame for the money.

Any suggestions on a winter frame? Not a fan of Alu having ridden a specialised secteur before and being shaken to bits. I would prefer to keep carbon fibre for the summer and steel for riding to winter and work. I don’t want to spend a fortune.

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby keef66 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 14:07 pm

Genesis Equilibrium is sold as a frame and fork, as is the Dawes Audax LE. Neither as cheap as the Ribble though :cry:

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Simmo72 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:07 pm

Nice frames but the genesis Equilibrium only has a 170mm heat tube which again seems rather small as the biggest size. my XL planet x pro carbon is 190cm and I have to 25mm of spacers on it and I still have 8cm drop from handlebars to stem. If I go too low my knees will be kissing my ears.

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby keef66 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 15:55 pm

I'm only 5'6" so I'm not familiar with the geometry of frames in Field Gate territory.

Sounds like you need a friendly frame builder...

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Simmo72 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 19:10 pm

Maybe in 1990 but things have moved on, plenty of frames for long legged chaps these days as we are a growing breed, but its finding something low cost for winter that is the challenge. Could get a condor but 600 for a frame that is going to take a battering seems a bit pointless to me.

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby bianchiblue » Wed Nov 14, 2012 20:34 pm

Planet X Kaffenback... I LOVED mine, it rode amazingly, is tough, rplenty of oom for 32c + guards, fitted nice, steel fork means you can have a very high front end without a noodly steerer tube. It's now with it's new owner who's 6' 6" and he's loving it too. I was on an XL by the way.

I agree about aluminium being nasty... I've hated every ally bike I've had or ridden haha and that included some very posh ones!

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby prb007 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 00:05 am

bianchiblue wrote:Planet X Kaffenback... I LOVED mine, it rode amazingly, is tough, rplenty of oom for 32c + guards, fitted nice, steel fork means you can have a very high front end without a noodly steerer tube. It's now with it's new owner who's 6' 6" and he's loving it too. I was on an XL by the way.

I agree about aluminium being nasty... I've hated every ally bike I've had or ridden haha and that included some very posh ones!

+1 for the Kaffenback - run mine as a 'faux-retro' singlespeed winter triner/commuter and I love it AND I'm a Clydesdale :D
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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby styxd » Thu Nov 15, 2012 00:41 am

I think you've forgotten to account for the external headset that is common on a steel frame (like the genesis). They usually have a stack height of about 30mm, I dont know how that compares to an internal headset on a carbon bike?

I have a 58cm genesis at 6'2". I find it a great fit, 120mm stem and about 10-15mm of spacers (cant remember off the top of my head exactly)

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby giant man » Thu Nov 15, 2012 10:09 am

thanks for the heads up, not good of Ribble to get the head tube sizing wrong on their web site though, buyer beware!
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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Simmo72 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:48 am

bianchiblue wrote:Planet X Kaffenback... I LOVED mine, it rode amazingly, is tough, rplenty of oom for 32c + guards, fitted nice, steel fork means you can have a very high front end without a noodly steerer tube. It's now with it's new owner who's 6' 6" and he's loving it too. I was on an XL by the way.

I agree about aluminium being nasty... I've hated every ally bike I've had or ridden haha and that included some very posh ones!


Cheers for heads up on the kaffenback.

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Simmo72 » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:52 am

styxd wrote:I think you've forgotten to account for the external headset that is common on a steel frame (like the genesis). They usually have a stack height of about 30mm, I dont know how that compares to an internal headset on a carbon bike?

I have a 58cm genesis at 6'2". I find it a great fit, 120mm stem and about 10-15mm of spacers (cant remember off the top of my head exactly)


maybe a bit but my headset on my carbon frame has a stack height of 20mm, plus spacers, so probably not much difference

I think I'll give genesis a call as I love the look of that 725 frame

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby Pork Sword » Sat Jan 26, 2013 18:36 pm

Ribble 5252.jpg


I've just had a Ribble 525 built up and I must say that I'm happy enough with it.

Built up with 105 shifters, rm, fm and brakes with Campag Ultra Torque chainset (Campag chainsets are WAY better than Shimano IMO) the bike weighs 11.4 kilos or a smidge over 25 pounds including mudguards, pump, pedals bottle cages and seatpack. It's heavy, and slow compared to my carbon bike (also a Ribble) but it zips along at a fair old rate once up to speed. It's no climber, but it gets you up to the top non-the-less. Descends great - the best word to describe the ride is: solid!

No BB flex (I weigh 92kilos) and I have to say that in the flesh, it's way better looking than any of the Genesis Equilibriums I've seen. Retro! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but, if you take into account that you could get the 525 Audax frame with carbon forks for less than £250 it's way better value than the 725 Genesis. If you can live with the extra weight, I think the bike is ideal for its intended use - Winter trainer/future Winter hack bike.

I wouldn't race or attempt to do a fast Sportive on it but that's not it's intended use - there are more suitable bikes offered by Ribble for those uses.

Yet again, Ribble offer a great frame for a great price.

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby oldfort » Wed May 22, 2013 10:22 am

I enquired about the ribble and they gave me a heads up on the correct head tube length, so they are obviously aware now, shame they can't just fix the web page.

Has anyone tried to run 25mm Continental GP4000's on this frame with the recommended fork?

The photo of pork sword's bike look like there is not much clearance between the rear tyre/mudguard and brake bridge, ribble said the 525 runs standard 49mm reach brakes, so it is likely to be very tight to run a big bag 25 even without a mudguard.

Ribble tried to tell me there was enough clearance, but I am a bit sceptical. Any experience out there?

I like the general configuration of the frame, especially being able to run down tube shifters. However, it is a shame that a "winter trainer" isn't built to take long reach brakes that give more options with tyres. Does anyone know of a similar frame, with down tube braze-ons and long reach brakes (57mm)?

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Re: New Ribble Steel 525 frame

Postby oldfort » Wed May 22, 2013 10:24 am

has anyone weighed the large frame before they added any parts?? ribble were vague, saying about 2.5kg with the suggest fork (640gm)


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