Legend_UK wrote:Life is too short to only make do or have a bike to just serve you, you want wake up in the morning yearning to get out on a bike feels something really special, like nothing you have ever ridden, when you are just cruising along it feels smooth and relaxed, when you press on the pedals it just comes to life as if you have a rocket pack on your back. Climbing you gain at least one sprocket compared to another bike, you feel like you are another rider. Sure there are lots of great average bikes out there, but many really great ones.
Keep an open mind and try for yourself.
do you write the product descriptions for rapha?
I feel smooth and relaxed but can give some welly on my Cervelo. I felt like that with my alloy and carbon Colnagos. If its the case then why do the top GC riders not ride rebadged custom Legends? (Marginal gains etc)
It's one think keeping an open mind, it's another to drop several k on a company that is not tried and tested by your peers...
I was genuinely interested in the product as I'm currently saving up for my 40th birthday present to myself. The waffle coming out of the 'legend camp' has put me off immensely...
No, do not work for Rapha! But I do come from a marketing background, but not as a copy writer! This was not meant to be an advert! Was just expressing my own feelings as an owner of a Legend.
This thread has been hijacked by people who want to express their own personal likes and dislikes, if you read my posts there is nothing to this end. It was started by someone [not me!] who seems to have an interest in learning more about made to measure bikes. I do get frustrated at the level of miss-information that is flying around. The real facts are being lost in all this bickering.
Most riders in the UK will not know Legend, when I went to live in Italy I too did not know them from Adam [or should that be Colnago] in fact I had no idea what the cycle industry was all about, I was a consumer, I saw riders in the TFD and wanted to buy the bike my heroes rode. This is the essence of how the cycle industry has worked since the very first bike race. Racing myself at the time, I started to learn more about the bigger picture of bike biz. I will not bore you with the whole story but over the past 15 years I have worked in the industry I have seen it from inside and from out. So please understand what I may write about are facts and not just marketing hot air that I see being blown all around us.
Legend is a new brand, but it is a very old company, Marco has built bikes for many other brands & professional riders/teams in the past, in fact for over 38 years. I have seen 90% of the frame builders that are left in Italy and I can assure you he is the very best I have seen.
If you have not seen it check out this month’s Rouleur, they did a great feature on him.
He has been forced to start his own brand because most of the teams/brands with whom he worked and consulted for have moved all their production to the Far East. Today he is one of a very small group of bike brands who actually build their own product. I would argue that there is a lot less risk buying a bike which you can actually see who makes it, where it is made and can have it designed 100% for you.
The real scandal
that no one is talking about is how all the Italian brands followed the Americans to move their production to Asia. Driven by the economics of the modern bike biz, having to run after the big American brands who were pumping more and more money into team sponsorship [very low cost price + same high selling price = more profit] who wins here? I argue not the consumer for sure! You end up paying a good percentage of your purchase price to pay for a pro team that is living a new dream [let’s not talk about dugs here pls] then all the marketing required to sell the product, what is actually left invest in the actual product? [Well I can assure you it is very very low] Is that not surely more of a risk?
Marco has invested his heart soul into his products [not to mention his engineering genius] and a lot more than a small percentage of its value. You can actually come and see him and his factory [we will be organising the first public trip shortly, if anyone wants to know more pls message me] you can also test ride many of the bikes he makes. There is now also a growing network of dealers who sell his products in the UK, where you can go and see the products and again test ride them.
I have not heard from one customer who said you know I am very disappointed with the way this bike rides, the opposite, customers are left amazed, how can a bike ride so well, it is true, there really is a huge difference. I have lots of written feedback, but do not take my word for it, see for yourself. Everyone should be respected for the purchases and bikes they ride, we all make them based on what we know, as they say knowledge is king, at present not everyone really knows about Legend.