SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby Prhymeate » Thu Nov 15, 2012 11:28 am

^ That is another combination I'm considering.

The M087 shoes arrived today, the sole seems almost as stiff as the road shoe but they fit tighter than the road shoe does. It's all becoming a bit of a headache to be honest, I'm tempted to just give up on the idea for now and stick with my regular shoes and flats.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby 964Cup » Fri Nov 16, 2012 00:38 am

MTB shoes and SPDs (or Speedplay, but that's £££). I have SPD-SL and SPD for my roadie, but only use the SL's when out of town. As others have said, clipping back in after the 87th red light is beyond irritating with SLs. Turn the clip springs down, too, since IMO it's more important to be able to unclip in a hurry than transmit maximum power.

Mountain bike shoes have a deep recess and tread around it that protrudes past the cleat so they're surprisingly easy to walk in and you don't wreck the cleat.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby Prhymeate » Fri Nov 16, 2012 19:00 pm

It looks like a road style/touring shoe with recessed spd cleats and a ratchet strap is what I want.

I'm going to have to go and try more sizes and styles on in store at some point. It's frustrating as I have large wide feet so they don't often stock the larger sizes. I tried the Shimano R087 size 49 wide, which fitted okay but the mountain bike version of the same shoe was tight. The only shoe I can see that might fit me and be what I want is the Specialized Elite Touring shoe, but it's £90 and I don't want to spend that much. I really like the look of the Shimano RT82 but it doesn't come in a 49 so I know it wont fit.

I've returned all the shoes and pedals that I ordered so I'm back to square one now.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby slowsider » Fri Nov 16, 2012 21:12 pm

You could try second hand while you are exploring options, then spring for a new set and eBay the non-starters.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby hsiaolc » Sat Nov 17, 2012 22:32 pm

I know how you feel. I have tried both system so far and I am thinking back to SPD instead of the SL. I started with spd instead SL because I was worried about SL being harder to clip in and out. After a few months I was extremely effective with the SPD but I encountered problems with hot spots and so I have decided to take a leap of faith with SL. It did solve my hot spot problem and it is more stiff.
But I feel so unsafe in them because few time when in emergency if I didn't take immediate action I would have crashed because of SL and one time in emergency braking I fall. Most importantly I am so much slower at push off from the lights because I can't clip in as fast as normal spds. I would say I am about 20 meters behind. So I am seriously thinking buying a stiffer sole spd to solve my problem but I definitely would ride in either one of the system than none.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby bendertherobot » Sun Nov 18, 2012 11:16 am

I find neither system better or more efficient. But a lot of my cycling is social. So the ability to walk is nice. So I'm using spd after years of sl
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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby jezzpalmer » Sun Nov 18, 2012 15:57 pm

I use Shimano RT82 with A530, and Bont Vaypor with Speeplay.
And TBH while the Bont/Speedplay setup is nice, it's a bit unnecessary; the RT82 looks a bit like a road shoe (as opposed to MTB) is easy to walk in, reasonably stiff, super easy to clip/unclip, comfortable (for my feet at least) and used with the double sided A530s is super convenient if you're stopping a lot (commuting, touring, waiting for the missus to catch up).

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby Prhymeate » Sun Nov 18, 2012 18:05 pm

jezzpalmer wrote:I use Shimano RT82 with A530, and Bont Vaypor with Speeplay.
And TBH while the Bont/Speedplay setup is nice, it's a bit unnecessary; the RT82 looks a bit like a road shoe (as opposed to MTB) is easy to walk in, reasonably stiff, super easy to clip/unclip, comfortable (for my feet at least) and used with the double sided A530s is super convenient if you're stopping a lot (commuting, touring, waiting for the missus to catch up).

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These are the shoes that I definitely want to get, but when I tried a Shimano R087 I needed a 49 Wide, and the RT82 only come in a 48 Regular. I'm going to find a pair to try, but I don't have much hope.

Thanks again for the replies :D

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby CasperCCC » Mon Nov 19, 2012 22:07 pm

SPD, for sure. I've got both. M087 and R087 shoes. I've done the Dunwich Dynamo (120 miles or so) in the M087s and they were great. The R087s are slightly better when I'm actually pedalling, but it is a major pain in the ars* to clip in compared to double-sided MTB pedals. I'm used to the road shoes now (Look pedals) but it is never going to be quite as easy.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby Prhymeate » Mon Nov 19, 2012 22:14 pm

CasperCCC wrote:SPD, for sure. I've got both. M087 and R087 shoes. I've done the Dunwich Dynamo (120 miles or so) in the M087s and they were great. The R087s are slightly better when I'm actually pedalling, but it is a major pain in the ars* to clip in compared to double-sided MTB pedals. I'm used to the road shoes now (Look pedals) but it is never going to be quite as easy.


Do you find the M087's slightly tighter than the R087's? I felt like the toe box was a bit smaller on the M087's. I'm hoping the RT82's are slightly roomier than both because I tried a 49 Wide in the R087's and RT82's only go up to a 48 Regular.

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Re: SPD or SPD-SL for first time clipless

Postby Prhymeate » Sat Dec 29, 2012 14:55 pm

In case anyone else is in the same boat I thought I'd post my end result as it's taken a couple of months to find the right set-up. I have wide feet and usually wear a size 12/13 UK shoe.

I have ended up with Specialized Elite Touring shoes, size 49. My feet feel a lot more comfortable than they did in the road and mountain bike shoes that I tried on (R087 49 wide, M087 49 wide and RT82 size 48). I have paired them with Shimano A520 pedals and together they are really comfortable to ride in. The fact that the A520 is single sided isn't an issue, it's really easy to cycle off from the traffic lights and keep pedalling until you find the right time to clip in your shoe if it doesn't happen first time. The sole of the Specialized shoes makes a big difference though so I guess it partly depends on your shoes. I currently have them set as loose as possible and they are super easy to clip out of and don't feel too loose to be cycling in. I'm pretty confident that when the time comes and I completely forget to clip out, that I'll be able to unclip before falling...I hope.

With regards to overshoes, after trying on a few pairs of neoprene shoes that did not fit (XL Planet X neoprene, Pro New Classic neoprene XXXL) I have settle on the Gore Softshell Windstoppers 48-50. They fit my size 49 touring shoes perfectly and are easy to get on and off.

Cheers for all the helpful replies, I hope this info can also help others in the future.


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