Cut-throat shaving

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby pastryboy » Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:52 am

I stated out with that wilkinson sword and used it for several months. I got an Edwin Jagger DE89 because it was my birthday and I liked the ivory handle - I didn't think it was going to make a big difference as I'd be using the same blades. It was a revelation - so weighty and smooth and the nicks I got from the WS were a thing of the past. It was literally a thousand percent improvement and I couldn't believe what I'd been missing out on. Where the WS presents the blade completely flat for you to determine the angle, the EJ curves the blade into the perfect angle so it feels much, much smoother.

Once you've got the hang of the WS, definitely go for an EJ which, aside from being a great razor, means you're supporting British manufacturing. The EJ post shave moisturiser is great too and a bottle lasts ages.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby CiB » Sun Nov 11, 2012 17:41 pm

Underscore wrote:Buy a 50p stick of Palmolive from Tesco*, slice it up and press into a ramekin or similar bowl.

Or just rub the wet brush round the wetted stick for a few seconds and then whip the lather up in the bowl, or the palm of your hand if you're feeling flash.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby Graeme_S » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:59 am

Magibob wrote:Quick update.

Been using the Cheap Wilkinson Sword DE for 2 weeks now. http://www.boots.com/en/Wilkinson-Sword ... 20niioCjCC

Blades seem to last a week or so.

Day to day, just shaving with the grain, no problems.

Tried yesterday the double shave, Once with the grain, once against the grain. Right side of face looks great, and is the smoothest shave I've ever had. Left side, very smooth, but in places, looked like a pound of badly wrapped mince.:shock: Rash cleared up after a few hours though.

I'll give it another week of "with the grain," and try it again, 'cos where it's good, it's REALLY good. :D

Andy

I've never shaved with a DE, but if your skin's a bit sensitive you might be better going with the grain, and then across the grain (at right angles to the grain) rather than against. I certainly used to get terrible razor burn from shaving against the grain until I had a professional wet shave and the guy advised me to go across rather than against.

I find I don't get quite as close a shave as I did with against, but my skin looks so much better that it's a worthwhile trade off.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby flimflam_machine » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:33 am

Stanley222 wrote:
pastryboy wrote:Once you've got the hang of the WS, definitely go for an EJ which, aside from being a great razor, means you're supporting British manufacturing. The EJ post shave moisturiser is great too and a bottle lasts ages.


Thanks for this. I too use the WS and was going to ask if I'd notice a difference or whether I was just paying for a fancy handle! :wink:


I tried out my EJ DE89L for the first time this morning and it's just lovely! It's effective without being aggressive and the weight of it really gives you the confidence to go for it without hacking your face to bits. I used a Derby blade which seems to do the trick nicely for me, not draggy or scratchy and gave me a good shave in 2 passes.

All in all, I reckon that's its the best £22 I've spent in a while and, unless I do something stupid, I could still be using it in 50 years time. Ridiculous bargain!

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby UndercoverElephant » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:50 am

flimflam_machine wrote:
Stanley222 wrote:
pastryboy wrote:Once you've got the hang of the WS, definitely go for an EJ which, aside from being a great razor, means you're supporting British manufacturing. The EJ post shave moisturiser is great too and a bottle lasts ages.


Thanks for this. I too use the WS and was going to ask if I'd notice a difference or whether I was just paying for a fancy handle! :wink:


I tried out my EJ DE89L for the first time this morning and it's just lovely! It's effective without being aggressive and the weight of it really gives you the confidence to go for it without hacking your face to bits. I used a Derby blade which seems to do the trick nicely for me, not draggy or scratchy and gave me a good shave in 2 passes.

All in all, I reckon that's its the best £22 I've spent in a while and, unless I do something stupid, I could still be using it in 50 years time. Ridiculous bargain!


Even the sceptics shall be converted. :mrgreen:

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby alfablue » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:10 am

Well done for persevering FlimFlam!

I can thoroughly recommend this soap
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Hand made, foams readily, just melt in microwave into your shaving mug. Only £3! I started with Palmolive at 50p, which I liked, but this is nicer.

p.s. I'm nothing to do with this seller, I just liked the soap

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby CiB » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:19 am

Better soap? I really can't believe that people will spend money on unnecessary marginal improvements in the belief that it will somehow make the experience somehow better... Oh hold on. Yeah. Soap upgrades. Obvious...

:wink:

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby UndercoverElephant » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:22 am

CiB wrote:Better soap? I really can't believe that people will spend money on unnecessary marginal improvements in the belief that it will somehow make the experience somehow better... Oh hold on. Yeah. Soap upgrades. Obvious...

:wink:


That soap looks heavy. I recommend Mitchell's wool fat, it's made of merino wool and makes you go faster.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby flimflam_machine » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:32 am

UndercoverElephant wrote:Even the sceptics shall be converted. :mrgreen:


Hallelujah! Testify brother!

I've also got some Mitchell's Wool Fat soap to try out (soap N+1 :roll: ). I'm looking forward to that. I've also got a whole sampler pack of about 50 blades to try, so I don't need to buy any more shaving kit for a year.

Edit: I'm not a fan of "cooling" shaving soaps/creams since I find that the feeling of cold makes my face tense up.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby walkingbootweather » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:41 am

I've been born again too. I was a sinner that has been shaved.

Only thing is, I wet my face with hot water, wet the brush in same hot water, but because the cream is cold, my face is cooled again by the time I come to shave. My bathroom isn't especially cold. Should I / could I try and warm the cream a little before applying. If I gave it a quick blast in the microwave is it likely to end in tears?

I'm using this cream btw.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby flimflam_machine » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:00 pm

walkingbootweather wrote:I've been born again too. I was a sinner that has been shaved.

Only thing is, I wet my face with hot water, wet the brush in same hot water, but because the cream is cold, my face is cooled again by the time I come to shave. My bathroom isn't especially cold. Should I / could I try and warm the cream a little before applying. If I gave it a quick blast in the microwave is it likely to end in tears?


That sound dodgy to me. If you put a bit of elbow grease into whipping up a lather you don't need a lot of cream. I get 2-3 passes worth from a roughly almond-sized amount. That volume of cold cream shouldn't really cool things down too much. You could try giving your brush a longer soak in hot water and if you use a metal shaving bowl to lather in you could float that in the sink to warm it up.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby MrSweary » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:45 pm

My beard laughs in the face of you over complicated and expensive shaving habits... +1 FCN though :(
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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby walkingbootweather » Tue Nov 20, 2012 13:49 pm

flimflam_machine wrote:I get 2-3 passes worth from a roughly almond-sized amount.


Thanks ffm, I do tend to lather straight from the bowl Not a lot of call for almonds up here - could you translate into say dry roasted peanuts?
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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby flimflam_machine » Tue Nov 20, 2012 13:50 pm

walkingbootweather wrote:
flimflam_machine wrote:I get 2-3 passes worth from a roughly almond-sized amount.


Thanks ffm, I do tend to lather straight from the bowl Not a lot of call for almonds up here - could you translate into say dry roasted peanuts?
:?


Definitely not! But it's about 1/17 of a Duchy Originals Sicilian Lemon All Butter Shortbread (Organic naturally!)

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby UndercoverElephant » Tue Nov 20, 2012 14:12 pm

flimflam_machine wrote:
walkingbootweather wrote:
flimflam_machine wrote:I get 2-3 passes worth from a roughly almond-sized amount.


Thanks ffm, I do tend to lather straight from the bowl Not a lot of call for almonds up here - could you translate into say dry roasted peanuts?
:?


Definitely not! But it's about 1/17 of a Duchy Originals Sicilian Lemon All Butter Shortbread (Organic naturally!)


If you're using a solid soap, just rub a wet brush around it for about 3-4 seconds, then whip up the lather as normal.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby coriordan » Tue Nov 20, 2012 14:42 pm

So the list is coming on slowly, but keen to make sure I get everything I need.
So far:
Edwin Jagger DE89 with the 5 free blades. I'll see how my face looks after that and possibly come back for advice.
The big blue bar of soap from above from eBay - are there other recommendations for a soap?
Styptic pencil (I can see this getting messy on the odd occasion!)

I guess I need to look at a brush. I don't think I would trust myself to trim my own, so anything pre-shaped, gives a good lather, nice and soft. A good badger hair one?

Any essential pre-post shave balms? I currently use a Loreal after shave gel, but I imagine there must be something better.

Anything else I am missing? A good mixing bowl? Stand to help it dry? Different creams/soaps?

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby alfablue » Tue Nov 20, 2012 14:59 pm

I got a nice Muhle Synthetic brush - it works really well. Soft springy tapered bristles.Image

For a mug I use a coffee cup (is fairly wide), works fine, but I would like one from Steve Woodhead Studio Pottery.

Don't forget a stand for your brush, it needs to dry out with the bristles facing down.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby alfablue » Tue Nov 20, 2012 15:03 pm

Oh, and I have found http://www.manmachine.co to be a great shop, things arrive rapidly and packed like they are gifts!

They are currently offering 50 free Derby's with any DE razor (they sell EJ and several other brands).

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby CiB » Tue Nov 20, 2012 15:16 pm

coriordan wrote:Anything else I am missing? A good mixing bowl? Stand to help it dry? Different creams/soaps?

I mentioned it earlier but the bowl isn't necessary. Rub the brush round the soap for a few seconds then lather it up in your open upturned palm. The soap stays in the brush and without much practice you soon learn how much is needed to do 2 or 3 passes.

I used a Styptic pencil once or twice with the cut-throat but since switching to a DE haven't had as much as a nick. For a couple of quid you might as well buy it just in case.

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Re: Cut-throat shaving

Postby cyclingprop » Tue Nov 20, 2012 15:32 pm

What is the best site for all this gumpf?
What do you mean you think 64cm is a big frame?


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