Never read so much boll*rks..

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Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby The Northern Monkey » Wed Nov 21, 2012 23:18 pm

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but we believe that it is enough to actually improve stability


http://www.pinkbike.com/news/Tioga-MT-Z ... -2012.html

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby bennett_346 » Wed Nov 21, 2012 23:22 pm

WTF.

So much derp. We're talking a 10mm difference over normal pedals, not 10cm. Also people have seatposts that move.

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby The Northern Monkey » Wed Nov 21, 2012 23:28 pm

also...

- Weight: 480g/PR (actual)
- MSRP: apprx $100 USD



Seriously. Why are companies trying so hard to make pedals a bit different when all they get are overpriced + heavier than competition.

Who is buying this crap?

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby ilovedirt » Thu Nov 22, 2012 01:06 am

The theory makes sense, but it is getting a little silly. Besides, if you're riding flats for XC, you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby nicklouse » Thu Nov 22, 2012 01:19 am

The Northern Monkey wrote:also...

- Weight: 480g/PR (actual)
- MSRP: apprx $100 USD



Seriously. Why are companies trying so hard to make pedals a bit different when all they get are overpriced + heavier than competition.

Who is buying this crap?

it is not new. been done twice before at least.
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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby mrmonkfinger » Thu Nov 22, 2012 07:37 am

why not solve the problem of having soles on your shoes, by riding barefoot?

or if you insist on funny pedals, why not have a pedal that hangs below the pedal axis for even more stability?

eh, tioga?

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby Clank » Thu Nov 22, 2012 07:42 am

bennett_346 wrote:WTF.

So much derp. We're talking a 10mm difference over normal pedals, not 10cm. Also people have seatposts that move.


Actually, the theory is sound, as is the diagram - they do say it's exagerated for effect in the text. The difference a few mm can make in the kinematics and feel on full sus pivot points, or on fork rake, or a single degree on head angle is readily accepted - so why not this?

The real question is whether we feel the difference in roll sensitivty adds any value. I have to admit I'm sceptical here - I think it might be a 100 dollar solution to a nickel problem.
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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby The Rookie » Thu Nov 22, 2012 08:14 am

Nasty loading on that bearing, bearing width (from inboard extreme to outboard extreme of all bearings) is tiny compared to a conventional pedals circa 2".......as seems to be indicated by the non existant life of the test sample.

Only a small increase in pedal width would be needed to have a stepped shaft with a small bearing at the outboard end for support, while retaining an over large inboard one.

SPD's of course are pretty good as the sole is effectively removed from the equation.

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby njee20 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 09:21 am

No it isn't, far from it! The tread is taken out of the equation, but not the sole! I notice a big difference on my road bike when I swap from my S-Works shoes to my Northwave winter boots.

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Re: Never read so much boll*rks..

Postby The Rookie » Fri Nov 23, 2012 06:19 am

cyd190468 wrote:Are you ready Beginner I'm going to agree with you!

I can't cope, I'm going for a lie down........


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