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Surely he's going to regret this

Postby orangepip » Tue Nov 27, 2012 09:40 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/uknews/9703458/UK-weather-trail-of-destruction-as-floods-spread-north.html#?frame=2409698

I obviously can't speak for his bike but my caad9 would probably fall apart in fairly short order if I tried that.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby dynamicbrick » Tue Nov 27, 2012 09:51 am

Not half as much as he would if he hit a submerged object and face planted. Indeed, part of a barbed wire fence would be enough to wrap him up with his bike and keep his head under long enough to drown.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby bianchibob » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:07 am

What an idiot, if he is wearing cleats and came off, I doubt he would survive, never mind hitting a submerged object.
I really do despair at the mentality of some of the British public.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby disgruntledgoat » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:11 am

A former boss of mine tried something similar in his Audi during the Cumbria floods. Another "high up" decided that advice not to travel on fell roads in snow didn't apply to him and his rear wheel drive Beamer. In both cases, the Mountain Rescue had some strong words for them after they pulled them out.
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby orangepip » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:25 am

I'm sure when we had our "black Thursday" in Newcastle in July, there were definitely tales of people (usually in extremely expensive BMW's / Audi's / Mercedes) that thought the laws of nature do not apply to them. Their insurance costs will certainly have gone up next year.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby bompington » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:41 am

bianchibob wrote:What an idiot, if he is wearing cleats and came off, I doubt he would survive, never mind hitting a submerged object.
I really do despair at the mentality of some of the British public.

I think we're getting a bit melodramatic here aren't we? He's cycling along a road, there may be a small chance of a dangerous obstruction but really, I never expected to find such health-and-safety-we -should-all-stay-in-bed-or-we're-doomed talk on this forum.

As for the posh car drivers who think the rules of nature don't apply to them - I suspect there are actually a couple of genuine reasons for this apart from sheer arrogance. Firstly, when you pay a lot of money to buy something you think is better than average, you can easily forget that it doesn't mean it can do everything better than average. Secondly, in your smooth, quiet, air-conditioned cocoon, it's easy to forget that the rules of nature still apply outside. I reckon that goes for the speeding too - it just doesn't feel as fast.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby Bobbinogs » Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:49 am

I do hope he is not riding a Pinarello :wink:

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby orangepip » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:40 am

bompington wrote:As for the posh car drivers who think the rules of nature don't apply to them - I suspect there are actually a couple of genuine reasons for this apart from sheer arrogance. Firstly, when you pay a lot of money to buy something you think is better than average, you can easily forget that it doesn't mean it can do everything better than average. Secondly, in your smooth, quiet, air-conditioned cocoon, it's easy to forget that the rules of nature still apply outside. I reckon that goes for the speeding too - it just doesn't feel as fast.


yes that is true. It could equally be the arrogance that comes with being able to afford such a car. No matter. There were plenty of taxis floating around Newcastle that thursday and they tend to be Peugeots etc.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby dynamicbrick » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:06 pm

bompington wrote:
bianchibob wrote:What an idiot, if he is wearing cleats and came off, I doubt he would survive, never mind hitting a submerged object.
I really do despair at the mentality of some of the British public.

I think we're getting a bit melodramatic here aren't we? He's cycling along a road, there may be a small chance of a dangerous obstruction but really, I never expected to find such health-and-safety-we -should-all-stay-in-bed-or-we're-doomed talk on this forum.


It's about probability and consequence, rather than doom talk.

Would you cycle along a road with your eyes closed?

Drain and manholes covers can lift in flood water, ditch debris ends up in the road, part of the road may have subsided, not to mention you can't actually see the end of the road.

Chrissakes the front wheel is entirely submerged - that's what, 3 foot deep? Any object up to the height of his front wheel could be in there, and the first he'd know about it is when he rides clean into it.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby GiantMike » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:11 pm

He's old. Leave him alone.
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby Frank the tank » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:12 pm

What a to55er he is. People have been killed in these floods and he goes putting himself in danger like that.

I don't think any appointment can be that important.
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:21 pm

Think maybe being a bit harsh here. You can see in the pic the road and it's bank emerging from the water what looks like just a meter or two behind him, so it obviously gets deep quite quickly. If he's not familiar with the road then its possible he didn't realise how deep the water would be, our keen-eyed snapper grabs a photo, just before the poor fella decides to turn around and abort.

Then again, maybe he knew what was ahead of him and is just a bit of a kn0b. Who knows!
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby GiantMike » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:25 pm

He's old. He probably doesn't even realise he's in the river. He'll get home and wonder why he has an eel in his jersey pocket.
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby tiredofwhiners » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:39 pm

The problem in such circumstances is never an underwater obstruction - its the exact opposite.

Its the manhole cover that has been forced off, leaving a large hole with water running inside it. Thats how people drown in those situations - they drop into the hole, get dragged along and never resurface. Strnegth won't hep you one bit when you're in an underwater pipe ... dreadful thought isn't it ?

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby AchillesLeftKnee » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:40 pm

"All this riding through water is great for you. Look at this graph. I haven't even needed to apply any power since riding through it..... oh"
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby jonomc4 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:50 pm

bompington wrote:
bianchibob wrote:What an idiot, if he is wearing cleats and came off, I doubt he would survive, never mind hitting a submerged object.
I really do despair at the mentality of some of the British public.

I think we're getting a bit melodramatic here aren't we? He's cycling along a road, there may be a small chance of a dangerous obstruction but really, I never expected to find such health-and-safety-we -should-all-stay-in-bed-or-we're-doomed talk on this forum.

As for the posh car drivers who think the rules of nature don't apply to them - I suspect there are actually a couple of genuine reasons for this apart from sheer arrogance. Firstly, when you pay a lot of money to buy something you think is better than average, you can easily forget that it doesn't mean it can do everything better than average. Secondly, in your smooth, quiet, air-conditioned cocoon, it's easy to forget that the rules of nature still apply outside. I reckon that goes for the speeding too - it just doesn't feel as fast.


Having owned a BMW and currently owning a Merc - I can safely say they are the worst snow cars in the world - a little cheap front wheel drive will suit you better - we ended up buying a jeep this year (replacing the BMW) because of how pathetic both cars were in bad weather.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby CiB » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:53 pm

He'll regret it, not cos of his imminent untimely death but because his BB, wheel bearings & headset will be completely farked by submersion in muddy water. How do I know? A couple of years ago what to me looked looked like a couple of inches of water turned out to be over a foot deep as it quickly went past my wheel hubs. Once you're in you're in so I kept going but with nothing to guide me rode straight into the low kerb and nearly fell off. Not clever, not big, not worth doing, but for mechanical rather than life-threatening reasons.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby edhornby » Tue Nov 27, 2012 13:07 pm

flood water, especially in urban areas, is often contaminated with sewage....
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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby Cornerblock » Tue Nov 27, 2012 19:32 pm

He's fine, just trying out his new shoes.

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Re: Surely he's going to regret this

Postby cougie » Wed Nov 28, 2012 08:46 am

I think he's a triathlete with his 2xu longs on.

He's knackered all the bearings on his bike though and I doubt he could have ridden much further than that. It's tough with a headwind - let alone three feet of water. If the water is moving it could be fatal at that depth. I presume it's just standing water though or hed not have risked it ?


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