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Not young

Postby dynamicbrick » Wed Nov 28, 2012 23:16 pm

I'm 37 in April. I suspect like most chaps, I don't really have any perception of not being young - in my head I'm still 17; svelte of frame, hairy of scalp, and devoid of the sleep-deprived vacant stare that comes only with repeatedly inflicting fatherhood on oneself.

Recently though, I've noticed things starting to impinge upon this bubble of self-image - not the forget me keys, who are you again?, christ there's hair growing out my ears, type moments - something more immeasurably difficult to avoid; when other people see you as not-young.

Scene 1. January this year, in the office. The graduate trainees are wittering on about the Ministry of Sound - apparently it was closing to make way for Crossrail or something. They absolutely must go there, part of London's club landscape, etc. I'm not part of the conversation, but decide to chip in anyway;
"I went there when it opened"
"Really? Wow! When was that?"
"ooh, erm... hang on...1991"
"Blimey... I wasn't even born then" says one
"I was, but can't even remember as I was only one, hahaha!" says another
then I get;
"So what was it like, clubbing in the olden days?"

Scene 2; Conference call today. Lots of people from about the business, most I've never met and probably never will. The call is because things are going very wrong with a client. Being the account manager I have the unenviable task of getting shot at from both sides in trying to smooth out the issues caused by titanic jobsworthiness on both sides. 10 minutes into the call;
".you're doing a good job of keeping this under control" says someone to me
"thanks, I'm changing my name to Red Adair"
A silence of truly biblical proportions gate-crashes the call.
"who?" someone eventually asks
"doesn't matter... right, next item is"
"Oh, I've found him on wikipedia... you're showing your age there"
"yeah, thanks"

I'm now beginning to appreciate why my Grandfather used to take great delight in annoying the hell out of people by pretending he was deaf or senile whenever he was in the post office, library, or similar.

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Re: Not young

Postby Fevmeister » Thu Nov 29, 2012 00:58 am

I wish I was a graduate trainee :(

I'm 22 and at my old job there was a similar aged lad to you in management who was often took back when I mentioned my year of birth or how old I was at certain times of his life. Upon every dawning realisation I think he cried a little inside!

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Re: Not young

Postby Herb71 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 06:21 am

I know exactly where you are coming from. I am 41 and when I get a pile of CV's on my desk with D.O.B. in the 90's I have to double check. '1990, that can't be right, they will only be....oh hang on, they are in their 20's'

It's not all bad. I have 2 teenaged kids, and while my daughter is pretty much a lost cause musically, I enjoy spending time in the car with my lad exploring the old tracks on my Ipod and have introduced him to some great stuff. I enjoy being the old Sage.....'London Calling.....you are gonna love this'

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Re: Not young

Postby mitchell_inman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 08:27 am

I'm off to the optician this morning.

This is nothing new, as I've been short sighted since I was 10. But now I've started to have a teensy weensy bit of trouble with close up stuff and small print. I might not need them just yet, but the prospect of reading glasses/varifocals is making me feel ancient :shock:
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Re: Not young

Postby thegreatdivide » Thu Nov 29, 2012 08:42 am

1988-1993 was a blur.
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Re: Not young

Postby dynamicbrick » Thu Nov 29, 2012 09:04 am

The rest of the conversation with the grads was basically me explaining how your memory works by the time you're in your 30s, as they couldn't accept that I could remember 21 years back.

Anything up to 1992 is sometime ago
93 up to 2000 feels like a while back
2000-2008 is basically last month
The last four years was last week, or was it the week before... I forget.

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Re: Not young

Postby Headhuunter » Thu Nov 29, 2012 09:13 am

I'm 40 in a couple of weeks... I remember the 1st time I started to feel "old", I was actually about 29 or something but we had a girl in as a temp PA at work and she was 17 or something so was born in something like 1983 and for the fist time I realised a had clear, cohesive memories of the year someone at work was born in....

These days I find it faintly amusing that what my dad always said has come true. He used to joke in the early 80s that he would keep hold of his flares as they would "come back in" sometime and they did, in the indy years of the late 80s and early 90s... Over the past few years we've seen the rise of the skinny jean which I remember trying to squeeze into when I was about 10 or 11 years old in a first attempt at fashion in the early 80s and now I see students at my local uni, Goldmsiths in new Cross, walking around in clothes reminscent of stuff I used to wear at uni in the early 90s - you know, coloured jeans, Doc Martens etc and slightly grungey stuff.... Never throw any clothes away, it all works on a cycle...
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Re: Not young

Postby daviesee » Thu Nov 29, 2012 09:14 am

Ha!
I was clubbing in '81!

Yes. I am old. :oops: :cry:

But I have had a full and fun life with plenty still to look forward to! :P
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Re: Not young

Postby random man » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:06 am

Dynamicbrick - look on the bright side, you will always (well nearly always) be young to someone eg me, I'm 20 years older than you :|

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Re: Not young

Postby Capt Slog » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:15 am

I'm 53.

My eldest son, Chip, was commenting on the demise of Comet last night. It was mentioned on the news that they were going under after 79yrs, he wanted to know what the could have been selling then. I witheringly explained that electricity had been invented at that time.

I was trying to explain to the youngest son last night regarding something silmilar which happened before he was born, but to my shame I can't remember what the F it was. Not the best of anecdotes I realise, but germane to the thread as it shows the state of my memory these days, and for the fact that because it was outside his lifeline he didn't give a toss anyway.
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Re: Not young

Postby finchy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:22 am

random man wrote:Dynamicbrick - look on the bright side, you will always (well nearly always) be young to someone eg me, I'm 20 years older than you :|


There's something I've always wanted to ask people of your age... what colour were the dinosaurs? :lol: :lol:

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Re: Not young

Postby finchy » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:27 am

I'm going to feel young until September 2014 - the 20th anniversary of Oasis' debut album. :shock:

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Re: Not young

Postby bompington » Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:47 am

I remember going to see hot new bands like Dire Straits and U2, and one of the funny things about growing old is that bands of this era are stuck that way for ever more in my mind, whereas bands that were big just a few years before - e.g. Beatles - are forever dinosaurs that belong to a bygone age.

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Re: Not young

Postby SadlyBiggins » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:21 am

johnfinch wrote:There's something I've always wanted to ask people of your age... what colour were the dinosaurs? :lol: :lol:


Black and white of course :D

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Re: Not young

Postby y33stu » Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:59 am

I just turned 30. I manage two guys who have just graduated, and they see me as old. Which is odd as I feel like I only graduated last week. Saying that, I used to listen to radio 1, religiously, every day as course of habit. (I know I know) But In the last 2 years I've come to despise it for all the awful manufactured pop music Sh**e they spout. That says to me I'm getting old. So I've moved to radio 2. :( But I think I'm too young for radio 2. So what do us 30 somethings listen to in the office?
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Re: Not young

Postby pb21 » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:06 pm

y33stu wrote:But I think I'm too young for radio 2. So what do us 30 somethings listen to in the office?


Radio 4 or 6, definitely not 2 at all costs, it will rot your brain!

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Re: Not young

Postby daviesee » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:07 pm

y33stu wrote:I just turned 30. I manage two guys who have just graduated, and they see me as old. Which is odd as I feel like I only graduated last week. Saying that, I used to listen to radio 1, religiously, every day as course of habit. (I know I know) But In the last 2 years I've come to despise it for all the awful manufactured pop music Sh**e they spout. That says to me I'm getting old. So I've moved to radio 2. :( But I think I'm too young for radio 2. So what do us 30 somethings listen to in the office?

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Re: Not young

Postby CiB » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:10 pm

See I was 50 last birthday (not momentous, just another one ticked off), but for me anything that happened before the 1960s has always been old history, only happened in books, was from a different world. And now when references to things crop up that I still think of as quite recent, like The Falklands war, the 1978 (or 1974 & 1970) World Cup, or Thatcher being elected in 79, or Live Aid, Blair winning his first term etc, these are all modern almost contemporary happenings. But when I mention them to my kids they see those events with as much distance - pre-historic in their world - as I see things from the 50s.

I recall quite clearly watching the 1969 moon landings on a 'portable' tv at school, stopping off on the way home for an early doors beer when Argentina tried to take Port Stanley and the whole pub listening attentively to the news on the radio, watching Lineker score his hat-trick against Poland in 86 etc etc, and these are as fresh as the last time I changed job, only 6 years ago. To younger people who have no direct memory of them, they're another world. That's the difference. We have people working here who were born in the mid-90s. That's only 10 minutes ago for some of us.

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Re: Not young

Postby CiB » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:21 pm

y33stu wrote:I think I'm too young for radio 2. So what do us 30 somethings listen to in the office?

You're not. Radio 2 is for everyone these days - crooners, Vera Lynne & The Kings Singers are a long distant memory on there. It's good, and they don't cling to what's in the hit parade as the driving force for what they play.

Give it a go: Ken Bruce - young pup. J Vine - Daily Mail on stilts but fun; Steve Wright - doing what he's done for 30 years without changing gear once. Simon Mayo - best of the lot.

Avoid Nigel Ogden with The Organist Entertains though - there are limits.
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Re: Not young

Postby greasedscotsman » Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:22 pm

It's when you are watching a ad break on the TV and you can't remember what programme you were watching. That's when you realise your getting on a bit...


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