Wheelset recommendations ~£500

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Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby colm_gti » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:27 pm

Looking at getting a new racing wheelset for myself for xmas, must meet the following criteria...

£500 budget
Shimano compatible
Stiff!! (I'm 90kgs of PURE muscle)
Relatively light (ideally sub 1500g)

I'm currently swaying towards a pair of wheelsmith race 23's, but have the option of a pair of DA 7850-sl's for very cheap also, if they're worth it? Is there anything else I should consider. They're mainly for racing (cat 3) so handbuilts have the upper hand in the case of a crash...

Just looking for opinions and suggestions from those of you in the know.

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ugo.santalucia » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:41 pm

The race23 are fine, but talk to Derek and get them specced for you differently. 24/28 and stronger spokes at the rear. The beauty of buying from an artisan is that you don't have to buy a fixed product.

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby maddog 2 » Fri Nov 30, 2012 17:50 pm

I have the 7850-SLs and have been very happy with them. I run them tubeless with Hutch Fusion3s. I also have some 'equivalent' handbuilts but the 7850s perform better.

The latest DA C24 wheels (7900 and 9000) are a tad over budget but look very nice.
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby northpole » Sat Dec 01, 2012 09:07 am

I reckon the DA's are hard to beat in this price range. Great wheels.

Campag Shamal Ultra's are also fab wheels if you can find a bargain, but not sure that sticking a campag wheel in a shimano set up is quite right!!

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ricky1980 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:04 pm

There is a set of brand new mavic krysium elite with tyres and all for 275 in for sales. Its a bargain!! Get that and save yourself 225 quid
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby NapoleonD » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:26 pm

You will find the DAs too flexy, I did.

If going the factory route then if suggest some mavic Ksyrium Elites.

But have a talk with Derek from Wheelsmith first, a pair of his wheels would be perfect.

My powertap wheels are IRD road rims built up with CX Ray spokes (24/32) with an Extralite hub on the front and a powertap Pro rear. The total weight is 1650g. They'd be approx 1300g if I had a 28h Extralite rear hub instead!

They are stiff as anything, well impressed!
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ratsbeyfus » Sat Dec 01, 2012 13:54 pm

ricky1980 wrote:There is a set of brand new mavic krysium elite with tyres and all for 275 in for sales. Its a bargain!! Get that and save yourself 225 quid


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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ricky1980 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 14:03 pm

Just went back to the thread it read equipe >.<

Doh!

But elites can be got for around 400 newish in ebay
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby colm_gti » Sat Dec 01, 2012 14:22 pm

Thanks for the replies folks!

Have sent Derek an email, it will be interesting to see what he can offer.

On a similar note, there is a wheel builder local to me (Dublin, Ireland) that I'm told is absolutely fantastic, but can't offer much in the way of advice for performance wheels as he has mostly built ultra reliable 32/32 open pro on dura ace rims for tourers and commuters, but if I can supply the materials, he would be more than happy to build them up, if anyone can offer any suggestions? This would be ideal for me as it would be much handier for aftermarket support, should a spoke break or the wheels go out of true...

I have looked into the ksyrium elites, a couple of lads in my club have them and are very satisfied with them, but I would be considerably taller, and presumably a few kgs heavier than them, and not sure how they're fare up with regard to stiffness?

I trained and raced last season on a pair of Aksiums, which were bullet proof, and haven't gone remotely out of true in ~8000kms (5000 miles), so if I could get wheels that were as reliable as these but that rolled faster for racing, I'd be over the moon. I'll be keeping the aksiums for training, and the new wheels will purely be for racing, so I'm not opposed to the idea of tubulars too...

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby NapoleonD » Sat Dec 01, 2012 14:30 pm

Ksyrium elites are super stiff, much more so than aksiums. I was riding the earlier this year at 100kg (down to 86 now) not a jot of flex.

But see what Derek says...
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby colm_gti » Sat Dec 01, 2012 15:11 pm

NapoleonD wrote:Ksyrium elites are super stiff, much more so than aksiums. I was riding the earlier this year at 100kg (down to 86 now) not a jot of flex.

But see what Derek says...


Interesting, my LBS has some fantastic deals on 2012 ksyrium elites and SL's.....

I will wait and see what Derek says before jumping to any conclusions though.

Also, anyone care to comment on campagnolo zondas or fulcrum racing 3's?

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 16:52 pm

colm_gti wrote:
NapoleonD wrote:Ksyrium elites are super stiff, much more so than aksiums. I was riding the earlier this year at 100kg (down to 86 now) not a jot of flex.

But see what Derek says...


Interesting, my LBS has some fantastic deals on 2012 ksyrium elites and SL's.....

I will wait and see what Derek says before jumping to any conclusions though.

Also, anyone care to comment on campagnolo zondas or fulcrum racing 3's?


If you have a local builder it is always the best solution... Make sure the feedback comes from someone trusted. I have seen some appalling work

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby colm_gti » Sat Dec 01, 2012 16:59 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:
colm_gti wrote:
NapoleonD wrote:Ksyrium elites are super stiff, much more so than aksiums. I was riding the earlier this year at 100kg (down to 86 now) not a jot of flex.

But see what Derek says...


Interesting, my LBS has some fantastic deals on 2012 ksyrium elites and SL's.....

I will wait and see what Derek says before jumping to any conclusions though.

Also, anyone care to comment on campagnolo zondas or fulcrum racing 3's?


If you have a local builder it is always the best solution... Make sure the feedback comes from someone trusted. I have seen some appalling work


Aye, the reviews are fantastic, he's very meticulous about his work I hear, and anyone I've spoken to that has had wheels made by him are still happy 12 and 24 months later....but like I said, he's only really made 36/36 touring and commuting rims, so I'd have to supply the rims and hubs....any suggestions?

I've been looking at the stans notubes ztr alpha 340 rims, would i be better off with something stiffer?

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby NapoleonD » Sat Dec 01, 2012 17:22 pm

Yes. Much stiffer. Which isn't hard!
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 17:25 pm

Stick to the Archetype rims... They are very stiff and come in all drillings

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby colm_gti » Sat Dec 01, 2012 17:49 pm

Another wheelset to throw into the mix, have an offer of a set of WH7801 50mm tubular wheels, with evo cx tubs and a cassette for below budget, only 600km done since new....from what I can find out online these are quite light and stiff?

Anyone able to offer any insight?

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby hazy day » Sat Dec 01, 2012 18:00 pm

I'm getting a set of wheels built by Bee Cycles,Dublin.They are 28 front and rear,Velocity A23 rims and DT Swiss 190 hubs.You are welcome to see them when built.Send me a PM and I'll keep you up to speed on progress. Hazy

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby dmclite-3.0 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 18:52 pm

Have a look at fuerte bici, good carbon wheels built up by a small company in suffolk. I have a pair of all carbon clinchers 60mm and are very stiff and light, had them for 2 years and are brilliant. I am also round about the 80kg mark so no lightweight either. :wink:
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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby ugo.santalucia » Sat Dec 01, 2012 20:48 pm

colm_gti wrote:Another wheelset to throw into the mix, have an offer of a set of WH7801 50mm tubular wheels, with evo cx tubs and a cassette for below budget, only 600km done since new....from what I can find out online these are quite light and stiff?

Anyone able to offer any insight?


Yes, the problem is always the same... A wheelset with no warranty that cannot be repaired, not without going through quite a journey anyway... It is a risk

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Re: Wheelset recommendations ~£500

Postby Captainlip » Sun Dec 16, 2012 16:06 pm

dmclite-3.0 wrote:Have a look at fuerte bici, good carbon wheels built up by a small company in suffolk. I have a pair of all carbon clinchers 60mm and are very stiff and light, had them for 2 years and are brilliant. I am also round about the 80kg mark so no lightweight either. :wink:



Why on earth are you giving people such bad advice like that? Mavic is what you need dont listen to this turd.
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