EPO bike toughie...

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EPO bike toughie...

Postby Daddy0 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 01:32 am

So I'm going to get her indoors a bike for Xmas. And I'm a bit stuck.

I know she'd really like a pretty one with a basket, such as the Dawes Duchess:
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/dawes/duchess-2012-womens-hybrid-bike-ec035297
I looked at one in the LBS today. Its not too bad, not *too* heavy or expensive, decentish quality...

However, she also says she wants to "get into cycling" and to go for longer rides on weekends in order to get fit and maybe even commute one day (12 miles each way).

So I'm guessing that the Dutchess and its kind are going to hinder her from really "getting into it"? But if I get her something that she doesn't like the look of I risk her never wanting to ride it. Do I get her the pretty bike or insist on a lighter road bike/hybrid with lots of gears and decent brakes that wont hold her back? Shes just coming to the end of her maternity leave so we are a bit strapped at the moment and would rather avoid the N+1 scenario...

What to do?! What do you ladies think? Any guys been in this situation?

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby rjsterry » Wed Dec 05, 2012 07:38 am

Second hand/reconditioned?
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Veronese68 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 09:37 am

I was buying my wife a cheap station hack. I found an old mixte framed Raleigh on Ebay and paid a mere £36 for it. Picked it up to find it had never been ridden! I told her it would be much lighter than a dutch bike and I would change the drop bars to flat bars for her. She hated it, said that even with flat bars it would be no good as the frame tubes were still too high if she was wearing a dress.
Si, i gave it to a friends daughter and bought her a really heavy old bike that she liked the look of. She's more than happy with it.
Moral is buy what she thinks she wants now, then she'll be happy. Good quality used makes sense. Then if she does enjoy it sell her the benefits of something lighter and upgrade. Having bought used you shouldn't lose anything.

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Herb71 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 09:50 am

My mother (in her 60s) bought a Pendleton Dalby from Halfords. I have not looked in depth at it, but they seem to review well. The Dalby is more hybrid then classic step through, but my mum has stuck a wicker basket on the front to pretty it up.

Might be worth a look, and they do a more classic model as well. My mum seems to get on with the gears ok, I thought she might struggle as her last bike was a Sturmey Archer 3 speed. Until the weather changed she was doing rides of up to 30 miles. Not too shabby for a pensioner, but Portsdown hill proved a bit much.

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby CiB » Wed Dec 05, 2012 09:51 am

We - she - found one of those £1000 Evans vouchers in the margarine and ended up buying this:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/neon-two-2012-womens-hybrid-bike-ec035868

It's well built, looks nice, has proper gears and good brakes that suit a girls hands but most of all she really likes it so uses it instead of having to be coerced into riding it, and that's ultimately what matters. It's only 4 miles to where she works and we haven't done any longer rides yet so I couldn't say what 12 miles would be like. Nice bike though. I like it.

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby MrSweary » Wed Dec 05, 2012 09:55 am

My wife has a buttermilk Metropole with white walls - the prettiest bike I've ever seen. Wherever we go it gets admiring comments and glances.

However, it isn't much use for anything other than summer pootling due to the 3 speed Sturmey Archer. We're thinking about getting her a second hand hybrid for some longer days out
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Daddy0 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:15 am

rjsterry wrote:Second hand/reconditioned?

I've been looking on and off. It seems most girls bikes are never ridden, so when they're sold second hand they're still a bit pricey. Also, I bought a second hand bike this year which I ended up spending the difference of a new bike on to get it working OK. But also also, I think a nice *shiny* new bike, whatever sort it is, will make her want to ride it more. Shes a girl and therefore a bit fickle like that.

Veronese68 wrote:She hated it, said that even with flat bars it would be no good as the frame tubes were still too high if she was wearing a dress.

Ah see, you made the mistake of letting her see it before you'd prettified it. You've got to attach the basket before she sees it, or she'll forever remember what it was like before-basket.

Herb71 wrote:My mother (in her 60s) bought a Pendleton Dalby from Halfords.

Looks more like a real bike. Disguising it as a proper girls bike with a wicker basket is cunning sir. Cheers for the idea.

CiB wrote:We - she - found one of those £1000 Evans vouchers in the margarine and ended up buying this:
http://www.evanscycles.com/products/pinnacle/neon-two-2012-womens-hybrid-bike-ec035868

That looks more like what I think she should get, proper gears and pretty light. I think with a basket on the front we might have a winner.

MrSweary wrote:My wife has a buttermilk Metropole with white walls - the prettiest bike I've ever seen. Wherever we go it gets admiring comments and glances.

It is very pretty, the EPO would love one of those!
MrSweary wrote:However, it isn't much use for anything other than summer pootling due to the 3 speed Sturmey Archer. We're thinking about getting her a second hand hybrid for some longer days out

Yeah, this is the issue that I want to avoid... ;-)

Thanks for all your help guys. Anyone else want to add their 2p?

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby MrSweary » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:26 am

Daddy0 wrote:Yeah, this is the issue that I want to avoid... ;-)


Yeah, total vanity purchase although it has done a few longer rides albeit very very slowly including quite a bit of towpath style stuff which it handles ok.

Wife is still totally in love with it though... and now it is covered with plastic flowers left over from the bike parade on Southbank last year. The only accessory that has come off is the basket - too much wind resistance!

Buy her the pretty one and hope she likes it enough to want to get a more practical bike next Xmas!
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Il Principe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:43 am

I bought my missus a Specialized ladies hybrid. At the time I tried and tried to convince her that drops etc were the way to go. Anyway, she has now admitted that actually a proper road bike would have been preferable...

Double edged sword though.

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby EKE_38BPM » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:51 am

Mrs EKE had a BSO MTB that she rode to work on occasionally and then got a BSO hybrid through work. We've done a few rides together with her riding the hybrid, the longest being a ride back to London from Brighton and she now sees the point of a higher quality, lighter bike and drop handle bars.
I don't think she would want drops for riding to work on or a basket on her bike for longer rides, so she now wants a weekend bike and a daily commuter.

Oh dear, EPO n+1

OP, buy your EPO two bikes.
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Blandiblub » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:51 am

I'm usually pretty good with the acronyms but someone help me out with EPO please?!
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby EKE_38BPM » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:55 am

Blandiblub wrote:I'm usually pretty good with the acronyms but someone help me out with EPO please?!


European Patent Office
or
Erythropoietin
or
English Poker Open
or
Entertainment Prevention Officer
or
Evansville Philharmonic Orchestra
or
Evening Primrose Oil
or
European Payment Order

Take your pick.
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby rubertoe » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:56 am

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Kieran_Burns » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:58 am

Blandiblub wrote:I'm usually pretty good with the acronyms but someone help me out with EPO please?!


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=E.P.O.


Enjoyment Prevention Officer. Usually used to describe a woman that guilts, nags or otherwise prevents her boyfriend/husband from having a good time with his friends.
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Daddy0 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:58 am

Rick Chasey wrote:http://www.amsterdammers.co.uk/ladies.htm

If I show her this website then its all over...

EKE_38BPM wrote:Oh dear, EPO n+1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Blandiblub wrote:I'm usually pretty good with the acronyms but someone help me out with EPO please?!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=E.P.O.

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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby EKE_38BPM » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:59 am

You've all killed my game. Edit your posts to get rid of the answer!
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Kieran_Burns » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:59 am

I swear it's my hidden super power - the ability to JUST get the answer in before someone else.
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Re: EPO bike toughie...

Postby Kieran_Burns » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:00 pm

bugger.

Or not!
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