Linda McCartney team doping investigation

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Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby iainf72 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 08:14 am

UK Anti-doping have started an investigation into the team as someone senior in the team has told them doping was very widespread on the squad.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_McCa ... acing_Team

Not surprising, some of the list, eh?
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby ddraver » Mon Dec 10, 2012 08:45 am

Thank god - The Armstrong and Contador threads were starting to get absurd...
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 08:56 am

Hmmm. That list of 'notable' riders isnt correct. Dont think Scanlon rode for them - didnt turn pro till 03 when he rode for AG2R. Russ Downing's missing from that list. Though I have to hope and trust that he, Matt Stephens and Wiggins have nothing to worry about.

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby RichN95 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 08:58 am

Is there much point to this? The Statute of Limitiations has long gone.

I guess Matt DeCaneo has got the hump from not invited to the CCN shindig.
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:00 am

Have to say DeCanio's name was the one that jumped into my mind immediately as the 'senior team member'

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby iainf72 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:03 am

The odd thing with DeCanio is he's mostly been proved correct. I used to think of him as a nutter but he's been on the money a lot of the time.

That said, I've not looked at stolen underground for quite a long time so I could remembering only the bits where he was right.
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:10 am

worth reading

http://www.podiumcafe.com/2010/8/18/162 ... side-story

Didnt realise that Wiggins never got around to racing for them at all. Signed for the 01 season but team collapsed Jan 01.

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Dave_1 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:17 am

Interesting development to say the least. Wonder whose names are involved. Some old schoolers ?

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:25 am

well, on the squad roster, you've got Sciandri and Richard for starters, plus Neil Stephens as well as Yatesy of course as DSs.

Thats the first lot of names to raise the eyebrows.

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby RichN95 » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:29 am

Richmond Racer wrote:well, on the squad roster, you've got Sciandri and Richard for starters, plus Neil Stephens as well as Yatesy of course as DSs.

Thats the first lot of names to raise the eyebrows.

Pick any team from 2000 and there were plenty of dopers on it.
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:33 am

RichN95 wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:well, on the squad roster, you've got Sciandri and Richard for starters, plus Neil Stephens as well as Yatesy of course as DSs.

Thats the first lot of names to raise the eyebrows.

Pick any team from 2000 and there were plenty of dopers on it.



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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby inkyfingers » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:36 am

If they did dope then it was a waste of good drugs.

As Rich said, it's like lining up a bunch of prostitutes and discussing which ones are most like to have an STD.
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Le Commentateur » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:38 am

Isn't a former rider now a member of the police?

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:40 am

Yeah, very fair point about investigating a team that disbanded Jan 01. Why stop there? Why not investigate ANC-Halfords? You can bet Capper put something in the bidons (if he knew what they were, of course) :roll:

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Rodrego Hernandez » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:43 am

Le Commentateur wrote:Isn't a former rider now a member of the police?


And one former rider works in a mine.

Not sure I see the relevance of your post?

They employed some dirty riders at a time when there weren't many clean riders around.

At least they didn't announce they had a zero tolerance policy and back that up with a signed promise from the rides that they hadn't been naughty.

There a some close similarities between mcartneys and sky though.

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby inkyfingers » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:48 am

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:
There a some close similarities between mcartneys and sky though.


Apart from the fact that they were a British based cycling team I'm struggling to see many?
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:50 am

They both rode the Giro and TDU?

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Rodrego Hernandez » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:50 am

inkyfingers wrote:
Rodrego Hernandez wrote:
There a some close similarities between mcartneys and sky though.


Apart from the fact that they were a British based cycling team I'm struggling to see many?


Look closer.

Staff, doctor, link to federations, clean policy.

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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby inkyfingers » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:54 am

Apart from the country of registration you could probably link 75% of cycling teams to each other using those criteria.
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Re: Linda McCartney team doping investigation

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Dec 10, 2012 09:59 am

Rodrego Hernandez wrote:
inkyfingers wrote:
Rodrego Hernandez wrote:
There a some close similarities between mcartneys and sky though.


Apart from the fact that they were a British based cycling team I'm struggling to see many?


Look closer.

Staff, doctor, link to federations, clean policy.



RH, let me ask you a couple of questions: can you name me a team on any size that's launched in the last couple of years without announcing a clean policy? Because I cant. Just off top of head, a few examples of recently launched teams/teams launching next year, all with clean policies; OGE. Argos-Shimano, IAM. And the new Team Type 1 squad. NO team launches these days without a clean policy.

Secondly, can you name me ANY Pro-Tour team that doesnt have riders, back-room staff, owners, DSs, without any links? The work recently down by @dimspace over at Velorooms, and posted by me in another thread, clearly shows that there are none.

Next, link to Federations. As per Rabo, as per OGE.

You repeatedly come up with a set of 'connections' to try to state a case that Brailsford & Co are up to naughties. So far, you've been unconvincing tbh.


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