Cyclists are faster than buses.

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Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby mybreakfastconsisted » Mon Dec 10, 2012 23:48 pm

I need some evidence, I know it's self-evident to any commuter but I'm in an argument with a penis. Put your facts, figures and unverifiable anecdotes here.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby TheLondonCyclist » Tue Dec 11, 2012 03:10 am

Of course cycling is faster. There's no need to prove such a thing. Lol. Buses have to stop in about 30 seconds after leaving the stop they just stopped at to stop at another stop. Most cyclists will be up to 23mph in about 4 - 6 seconds. That bus is still changing gears hehe

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby meanredspider » Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:45 am

Is there still such a thing as a bus timetable? That would show pretty clearly. That, or ride a bus with your GPS device running and record it.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby rstabler11 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 06:51 am

My commute is very short so a bus would just be comical. However getting to my rowing club is 8 miles, including about 3-4 miles of open road (ie where bus is faster). I can bike it in around 25 mins, 30 if there is traffic and I am going at a relaxed pace. If I want to take the bus, I have a 4 min walk to the bus stop at my end, a 1-15 min wait for the bus depending on if it is on time, the bus takes about 25 mins in no traffic, up to an hour in monday morning traffic, and I have a 10 min walk at the other end.
So bike is 25-30 mins, bus is about 40-70 mins.

Hope that was helpful.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby DonDaddyD » Tue Dec 11, 2012 07:15 am

mybreakfastconsisted wrote:I need some evidence, I know it's self-evident to any commuter but I'm in an argument with a penis.
I didn't know you could speak 'dick'. Then again, it all makes sense now....

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Graham. » Tue Dec 11, 2012 07:24 am

It used to take me longer to walk from my door to the bus stop, and then from my destination to work, than it did to just cycle to work. :D




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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby bushu » Tue Dec 11, 2012 07:32 am

to get to my place of work it's 2-3 buses plus a mile walk, each way
factor in that they turn up once a blue moon and regularly knock, so you miss the connecting journey
It's only 5 miles... takes me 15 mins depending on traffic near M1 or 2+ hours stood about freezing
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby browndogss » Tue Dec 11, 2012 08:23 am

yeah, you are right , cycling is faster. There's no need to prove such a thing. thanksImage

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby bushu » Tue Dec 11, 2012 08:30 am

By 'eck that was hairy.. Still 15 mins with a thick carpet of frost I'm either getting faster or stupider an I didn't think the latter was possible o_0

Got to the m1 fly over not feeling like playing chicken with the cars so took the cycle/ped route, bit of a scare wondering if I could stop if the lights change and only nearly decked the once..

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby bompington » Tue Dec 11, 2012 08:51 am

Well, it takes around 50 minutes from the nearest bus-stop with a direct bus to get to work. Oh, you need to add in the 30 minute walk to said bus-stop.
This morning, at a tasty -6° with a slight headwind and significant ice on a lot of the route, it took around 1:16 by bike. In summer it ranges from 0:56 to 1:30 depending on wind and weather.

So it's faster by bike - and this is an entirely rural commute.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby roger merriman » Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:04 am

The problem with public transport is waiting time for them to arrive. if it's a journey that requires a few changes can end up waiting a fair bit.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby vermin » Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:26 am

Dead heat.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Veronese68 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:44 am

If I get a bus to work it takes an hour and I have to leave the house by 7:30. Cycling takes 25 minutes including faffing and I can leave at 8.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby DonDaddyD » Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:48 am

Sensible answer: a bicycle is less affected by the time consuming pressures that surround it when travelling from A-B.

A bus has to stop at arguably every bus stop and is more affected by traffic, traffic calming measures than a bike. The journey time is also affected by the fact that the person has to walk to the bus stop, wait for the bus and walk to their destination.

The less stopping you have to do the quicker your journey, the more continuous movement - bikes can filter through traffic - the faster the overall journey.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Origamist » Tue Dec 11, 2012 09:52 am

The 155 from Tooting Bec to the Elephant in the 8am rush hour takes circa 40 mins. On the bike it takes around 20 mins.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Il Principe » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:07 am

The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Peat » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:15 am

Don't forget to factor in getting kitted up and getting changed/washed the other end.

For my commute in rural Oxfordshire -

Car - 25mins
Bike - 40mins + shower
Bus - 1hr 10.

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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby DonDaddyD » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:16 am

Il Principe wrote:The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.

That's why at some underground stations they tell you its faster to walk between stations than take any other form of transport.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby rjsterry » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:18 am

Il Principe wrote:The 87 from Wandsworth Plain to Aldwych can take anywhere from 1 to over 2 hours. Same on the bike takes me around 22 minutes.

Christ the other day I walked from Fleet St to KX, missed the bus but kept in it sight the whole way and eventually overtook it just before the station - that's over 1.5 miles. So in London even walking can be faster.


That's a pretty extreme example - out in the, erm, outer suburbs, buses are more competitive, although they oftewn take rather labyrinthine routes. That said, the other day, I 'raced' Mrs RJS from Putney to Carshalton - me on the bike, her in the car with the littl'uns and a large pot plant. 7.7 miles and I had time to make a cup of tea, before the Mrs pulled into the drive. That was on a Saturday evening, so it just shows how a few bottle necks like Wimbledon high street can really slow things up.
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Re: Cyclists are faster than buses.

Postby Adskis » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:21 am

Sorry to put a spanner in the works here but the bus would definitely be faster going to work on average for me. The bus to my work takes about 20 mins and the stop is about 5 mins walk from my door and they run every 10 mins. The fastest time I have ever done the commute is 28 minutes and I was a sweaty wreck at the end of it. In winter especially it takes at least 35 mins on the bike door to door, and then I have to get ready for work at when I arrive.

On the way home it is usually a lot closer. The traffic is worse and I go faster. I think that it would be very close over a whole week, but I do think that the bus would probably win.

Of course then I would feel the need to go for a run/go to the gym/go for a ride etc., after I got home on the bus. :-)


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