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£100 wheels

Postby armoureddrummer » Mon Dec 24, 2012 00:22 am

I am trying to decide between these options:
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-t ... snawhhr150
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/showPart. ... R362&bike=

I am 16 stone and really do fairly light riding (30 miles twice a week) although hoping to increase this summer.

What do you think?

The mach 1 are handbuilt which I have heard generally means better from a strength point of view. Is this true or just nonsense?

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby night_porter » Mon Dec 24, 2012 02:08 am

The Miche ones look nice and yes handbuilts can be stronger but it really depends how good the builder is.

I use the RS10's for commuting and they are totally bombproof, because I commute in the dark all year around I sometimes hit pot holes quite hard and the RS10's have never gone out of true even though I have killed tyres. I weigh about the same as you too so I am not a lightweight. I would recommend the RS10's any day!

By the way I commute about 120 miles a week in all weathers and have used these wheels for at least 2 years.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby Valy » Mon Dec 24, 2012 03:54 am

Yeah the RS10 should prove good. I've had a rear 501 which seems to be a bit cheaper and it's been without faults for a pretty long time.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby GGBiker » Mon Dec 24, 2012 07:40 am

Fulcrum racing 7 are pretty bombproof, fast, great looking, low maintenance with sealed bearings and £110 online.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby smidsy » Mon Dec 24, 2012 09:41 am

I would say for your weight something with 32 or even 36 spokes would be the way to go.

At £100 you are talking basic stuff so do not expect marvels from either.
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Re: £100 wheels

Postby armoureddrummer » Mon Dec 24, 2012 10:06 am

Cheers guys
@ Night Porter - That seems a fairly confident review. I am bouncing around Edinburgh's potholed streets and occasionally hit a few to avoid the usual taxi drivers caring in very little except their fare. Strong sounds good.

@GGBiker - Hmmm. I had considered Fulcrums but last time I looked they were just outside my budget. Lets add them into the mix. I know everyone has preferences / tastes when it comes to wheels but interested to hear what everyone thinks of the Fulcrums vs the ones above too. Going by the RRP I guess they are in the same ball park as the Shimanos?

@ Smidsy - Unfortunately budget is limited at this time of year and if I don't get back on my bike in the new year it wont be 16 stone I need to cater for! lol. Not expecting wonders but will be investing in a new set up (probably complete bike) later in the year and pushing this one back to winter duties so as long as they can handle day to day running about, I will be happy enough. Unfortunately road conditions are an issue round here but I have very handy access to a great wheel builder at mates rates should the worst happen! :wink:

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby smidsy » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:00 am

armoureddrummer wrote: Unfortunately road conditions are an issue round here but I have very handy access to a great wheel builder at mates rates should the worst happen! :wink:


So why not get him to build you something more suited to the conditions?
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Re: £100 wheels

Postby Neale1978 » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:08 am

Ive had some fulcrum 7's for months now and for the price i cant fault them at all

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:09 am

smidsy wrote:
armoureddrummer wrote: Unfortunately road conditions are an issue round here but I have very handy access to a great wheel builder at mates rates should the worst happen! :wink:


So why not get him to build you something more suited to the conditions?


Because even a mate cannot build much for 100 pounds. I figured out that the cheapest decent components (tiagra hubs, rigida rims and ACI spokes) add up to 110... Then add the "mate rate" and you are out of budget

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby smidsy » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:15 am

ugo.santalucia wrote:
smidsy wrote:
armoureddrummer wrote: Unfortunately road conditions are an issue round here but I have very handy access to a great wheel builder at mates rates should the worst happen! :wink:


So why not get him to build you something more suited to the conditions?


Because even a mate cannot build much for 100 pounds. I figured out that the cheapest decent components (tiagra hubs, rigida rims and ACI spokes) add up to 110... Then add the "mate rate" and you are out of budget


Some mate :lol:

I did not state my point well, I realise the cost will be more than £100 but I am such a convert that I hate seeing people spend out on the 'other stuff' :wink: .
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Re: £100 wheels

Postby armoureddrummer » Mon Dec 24, 2012 14:23 pm

Yeah, budget kills the customs just now.

Been offered some 6 month old aksiums including tyres and tubes for 100 too. Seems OK but new Mavics floating around for 120/130 at the moment (no tyres obviously). Very unsure now. LOL.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby wishitwasallflat » Mon Dec 24, 2012 16:29 pm

My experience of RS10s was bad - I am heavier than you but mine lasted about 1200 miles then the spokes started breaking. Once they do the wheel goes so untrue it is unridable, also replacement spokes can be tricky to get hold of. Do a web search for RS10s durability and you will see this timeline is not that unsual - yes Shimano make a lot of wheels and sell a lot of RS10s - so there will inevitably be some go wrong and reports on the web - but FWIW I would think twice about them. I reckon if you mate can build you a set for £110 go for that option and 32 or 36 spokes.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby armoureddrummer » Mon Dec 24, 2012 19:58 pm

Hmm. Some interesting reviews (particularly for us rounder bellied riders! lol :shock: ).

Ok so, rules out the RS10s for me then.

Remaining ones for consideration:
CSN Miche/Mach 1 Handbuilts
Fulcrum 7
Mavic Askium (Second Hand - 6 months old incl tyres)

Your comments are really helpful, keep them coming.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby ugo.santalucia » Mon Dec 24, 2012 21:11 pm

armoureddrummer wrote:Hmm. Some interesting reviews (particularly for us rounder bellied riders! lol :shock: ).

Ok so, rules out the RS10s for me then.

Remaining ones for consideration:
CSN Miche/Mach 1 Handbuilts
Fulcrum 7
Mavic Askium (Second Hand - 6 months old incl tyres)

Your comments are really helpful, keep them coming.


Take the plunge and ask you friend to build you a set of Rigida Chrina on Shimano 105... you might have to fork out an extra 50 pounds... surely you can find 50 pounds somewhere... trying to scrimp the penny is often false economy. Wheels are important, unlike stems and seat posts... :wink:

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby tim wand » Mon Dec 24, 2012 21:51 pm

Pro Lite Comos if still available. Think Quest do something which is the same just re branded

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby night_porter » Mon Dec 24, 2012 22:49 pm

wishitwasallflat wrote:My experience of RS10s was bad - I am heavier than you but mine lasted about 1200 miles then the spokes started breaking.


Well I must be the luckiest cyclist in the world if mine have already lasted 12,000 and show no signs of problems. I really would not be surprised if they lasted another 2 years. But hey we all have our opinions and experiences and we can only tell you what we know.

I didn't mention that I did have a pair of 32 spoke handbuilts with Mach 1 rims on before I got the RS10's and they were always going out of true and the spokes started to stress the rims around the holes. Admittedly one spoke breaking did not stop me from riding home but as I said not one problem with the RS10's.

Incidentally I have another bike with Aksiums on and they don't seem any better or different to the RS10's apart from the wider bladed spokes which make them prettier.
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Re: £100 wheels

Postby armoureddrummer » Tue Dec 25, 2012 00:38 am

This appears to be the problem with wheels. So many different factors that can make a good or bad wheel - standard of build quality, rider size/weight, type of riding, condition of roads, standard of parts. It is the very much the same issues I talk to people about with drum materials vs drum skins. So many variants / tastes. Some have luck some don't. It appears the message is the same too - keep trying till you find something you like.

I might have a play around with some costs for handbuilt options.

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby wishitwasallflat » Tue Dec 25, 2012 18:20 pm

night_porter wrote:
wishitwasallflat wrote:My experience of RS10s was bad - I am heavier than you but mine lasted about 1200 miles then the spokes started breaking.


Well I must be the luckiest cyclist in the world if mine have already lasted 12,000 and show no signs of problems. I really would not be surprised if they lasted another 2 years. But hey we all have our opinions and experiences and we can only tell you what we know.

I didn't mention that I did have a pair of 32 spoke handbuilts with Mach 1 rims on before I got the RS10's and they were always going out of true and the spokes started to stress the rims around the holes. Admittedly one spoke breaking did not stop me from riding home but as I said not one problem with the RS10's.

Incidentally I have another bike with Aksiums on and they don't seem any better or different to the RS10's apart from the wider bladed spokes which make them prettier.



Not at all surprised to read this (aprat from hearing you coudl ride home on RS10s with a busted spoke when mine went the wheels were too warped and I called the missus for rescue) - my impression of RS10s is that if you are normal to slightly overweight and you get a normal set then they are very good - reading a lot around them and my own experience is that if you are either 16 stone + and/or don't get a normal set then quite often (not always of course) spokes start to go after about 1-1.5k miles. As I said though there are loads and loads of these wheel around and they come as OEM on a lot of bikes so people who didn't choose them ride them so that will undoubtedly skew the impression from web reviews.

I would very much +1 ugo comments - if you possibly can find the extra money together get your friend to build you a set with Rigida Chrina and 32 or 36 spokes - they will outlast you!!!

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby ugo.santalucia » Tue Dec 25, 2012 18:39 pm

wishitwasallflat wrote:I would very much +1 ugo comments - if you possibly can find the extra money together get your friend to build you a set with Rigida Chrina and 32 or 36 spokes - they will outlast you!!!


Ehm... One would hope to outlast the wheels, if possible... :?

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Re: £100 wheels

Postby wishitwasallflat » Tue Dec 25, 2012 18:58 pm

ugo.santalucia wrote:
wishitwasallflat wrote:I would very much +1 ugo comments - if you possibly can find the extra money together get your friend to build you a set with Rigida Chrina and 32 or 36 spokes - they will outlast you!!!


Ehm... One would hope to outlast the wheels, if possible... :?


Mmmm yes that is true but a bit of poetic licsence/hyperbole never goes amiss :D


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