Shimano XT M785 Wheels

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Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby The Northern Monkey » Sun Dec 30, 2012 00:55 am

Any views on this wheelset, seem to get good reviews around the net.

1600g and underv £200, would be nice on the RL and I'd lose about 300g of rotating weight..

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby Stu Coops » Sun Dec 30, 2012 09:45 am

Had these on my Zesty for over 2yrs now and have given them some serious abuse on natural stuff in Brecon and only needed a front wheel true and that was from my bad riding, some people winge about them being cup & cones but mine have had no issues at all.
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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby cooldad » Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:37 am

I like cup and cone - any monkey can service them.
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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby lawman » Sun Dec 30, 2012 15:13 pm

Cup and cone should have died years ago. Add to this the unique rims and spokes which will be a royal pain to find if they break and you're much much better off going for superstar/stans. Just as light, adaptable for different axles should you need them in future and spares will be easier to get hold of. No brainer for me!!

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby supersonic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 15:33 pm

Only the Crest/Switch are comparable in weight. Decent wheels, but the XT hubs are superior in my experience. Faster engagement, smoother and freer running - only slight caveat is that they use smaller bearings than normal shimano hubs so good adjustment is critical. Rims tougher too, ding less easily. And they come with the best skewers you can get, bar XTR.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby Clank » Sun Dec 30, 2012 16:06 pm

Are they available in 6-bolt, or just centre-lock? I know this could be a deal-breaker for some.
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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby bennett_346 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 16:26 pm

I hate cup and cone. Poor sealing and excessive maintenance - not good in the UK (and not many benefits over cartridge bearings).

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby The Northern Monkey » Sun Dec 30, 2012 16:44 pm

Had cup and cone before, never had an issue! Keep em clean and adjusted and they are fine!

Only come in centre lock, but I have Shimano brakes which are CL anyway!

Cheers SS was the rim I wanted info about, hubs will be spot on!

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby bennett_346 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 17:13 pm

The Northern Monkey wrote:Had cup and cone before, never had an issue! Keep em clean and adjusted and they are fine!

Aint nobody got time for that.

Time spent fixing could be time spent on the trail.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby supersonic » Sun Dec 30, 2012 18:26 pm

Sealing is as good a the cost of the hub - even down to Deore (and some lower) have labyrinth seals. XTR run smoother than any cartridge bearing, full stop, and are brilliantly sealed. XT aren't far behind. Some of the worst sealing I have seen is on cartridge hubs.

The rims are decent too, tough and stiff. £200 is on the money for this wheelset. Is rather specific in its spec, but if you don't have the need to swap axles, run 2.4 tyres or 6 bolt rotors then they are a good as it gets.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 01:14 am

supersonic wrote:Sealing is as good a the cost of the hub - even down to Deore (and some lower) have labyrinth seals. XTR run smoother than any cartridge bearing, full stop, and are brilliantly sealed. XT aren't far behind.

My experience of XT is that it isn't sealed at all. Two week service interval is crap frankly.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby supersonic » Mon Dec 31, 2012 01:14 am

Mine are 6-12 month intervals.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 01:16 am

One dunking through a river saw my mates XT need re greasing whereas my cheap OE cartridge hub hasnt needed opened once in 2 years, despite going through the same river several times.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby supersonic » Mon Dec 31, 2012 01:20 am

I've had mine axle deep in mud, still spin smooth. Maybe he has a rogue set.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby bennett_346 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 01:32 am

You could be right, it was surprising how often it needed done, and every time it was opened it was filled with brown mucky dust.

He binned them for superstars and hasnt touched them since.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby lawman » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:30 am

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby lawman » Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:34 am

supersonic wrote:Mine are 6-12 month intervals.


That's pretty poor really if you ask me. My pro 2's are 18 months old and still run perfect, my superstars are a year old and again, absolutely spot on. The only benefits I can see from cup and cone is the slightly smoother running, but from my experience they need a lot of adjustment to make them run smoothly, and if they aren't adjusted perfectly, they will eat themselves quickly. If you had brakes that needed adjusting every 2-3 months you'd be hacked off pretty quickly, as I know many avid users have been and sold them and gone elsewhere. Why should wheels be any different? How can a product be reliable if it needs constant maintanence? I for one will be sticking with cartridge bearing hubs that's for sure, and IMO the superstar/crest wheelset is far superior to anything from shimano for a similar cost. I'm a big shimano fan, their drivetrain and brakes are very good, but the hubs and wheels are just a joke

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby The Northern Monkey » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:00 am

Do the xt's have a steel or alu freehub body?

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby Thewaylander » Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:03 am

I have to admit my history with shimano hubs has been poor.

My old Xt hubs i used to destroy freewheels, and the non cartridge bearings were forever needing to be sreviced. maybe they have improved this int he last few years but to be honest the complete annoyance it left me with i wouldn't go back to anything shimano on the wheel front.

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Re: Shimano XT M785 Wheels

Postby TimB34 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 14:57 pm

I bought the slx (mt65) version of these based on the kind of comments you've already had.

That was at the start of the year and they are still true and running well (and I haven't broken any spokes, but I'm 70kg and not hard on bikes).

I don't mind cup and cone, I wanted tubeless/tubeless ready rims and at the time they were way cheaper than Superstar crest builds (and not that much heavier) and the biggest plus for me was that the freehub clickclick is nearly silent.

Oh and the Shimano skewers really are way better than the OEM specialized ones they replaced.


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