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Dopings and the Olympics

Postby richsieb » Wed Jan 16, 2013 17:13 pm

Couldn't help but see this article on the telegraph website today about Armstrong's doping scandal http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... oping.html

I don't know enough about it to know whether this "cover up" mention is likely or not, so what's the chances of something like the banning of Olympic cycling actually happening. It said they did it for weightlifting, but surely it would be a completely different situation with cycling as the revenue, the team funding and media associated with the sport etc. is a lot more than with weightlifting. Can the Olympic games afford to lose all the money on tickets and sponsorship if they were to ban cycling?

Just after some of your views.. :D

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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby FocusZing » Wed Jan 16, 2013 17:47 pm

richsieb wrote:Couldn't help but see this article on the telegraph website today about Armstrong's doping scandal http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... oping.html

I don't know enough about it to know whether this "cover up" mention is likely or not, so what's the chances of something like the banning of Olympic cycling actually happening. It said they did it for weightlifting, but surely it would be a completely different situation with cycling as the revenue, the team funding and media associated with the sport etc. is a lot more than with weightlifting. Can the Olympic games afford to lose all the money on tickets and sponsorship if they were to ban cycling?

Just after some of your views.. :D


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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby ben@31 » Wed Jan 16, 2013 20:31 pm

richsieb wrote: Can the Olympic games afford to lose all the money on tickets and sponsorship if they were to ban cycling?


I think the Olympic cycling road race was free for spectators?

The guy who came first.... Vinokourov. Has been banned for doping before. Also in 2010 he bribed other competitors.

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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby richsieb » Wed Jan 16, 2013 20:37 pm

I think the Olympic cycling road race was free for spectators?


But they would have made money through sponsorship, and with no event, people won't be watching/attending so there won't be any sponsorship, thus no money?

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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby laurentian » Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:41 am

I believe any "banning" would be on the basis that the UCI were complicit in doping not on the fact that lots of cyclists doped. There have been shedloads of sprinters, weightlifters and other athletes found guilty of the same offence but their world governing bodies were not tolerating or "turning a blind eye" as is the suggestion with UCI.
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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby Pinno » Thu Jan 17, 2013 15:48 pm

There is an odd hypocrisy here. When this whole thing kicked off during the Festina affair in 1998, cycling was thrust into a really bad light vis a vis other sports. Then the testing got so silly (getting TdF cyclists out of bed at unearthly hours etc). However, I am right in saying that cyclists are the most tested athletes for doping ?
This is where the Olympic Committee and the UCI differ. I think in the light of whats happening in cycling and has been for the past 15 years, the OC are paranoid about a similar drugs scandal hitting them. Could you see them going into China/Russia/Korea without warning and testing a whole load of athletes ? Could you see them testing for drugs on such a regular basis as the UCI ? Not on your nelly, better to sweep it under the carpet and cast cycling aside as the 'dirty' sport.
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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby Stick8267 » Thu Jan 17, 2013 17:23 pm

Outside of the actual Games testing is undertaken by the national organisations under the control of the International Federations (UCI in this case) with WADA defining the rules and, theoretically, governance, although they would struggle to control this if the IF chose to hide results etc. This means the IOC has no role in or control of what happens when the Games aren't on and WADA could have little knowledge of what happens at the IF level.

So the IOC cannot go in to China or anywhere else.

A sport can only enter the Olympics if it has a unified IF and is selected to be there by the IOC. Basically they are guests invited to compete. The IOC is going to be more than annoyed if the IF has collaborated to make them look stupid. Would you invite someone to your party that you discovered had been lying to you?

If cycling gets removed from the Games it will be the fault of the UCI, not a response to one or more athletes' indiscretions, and a profound tragedy for the developing cyclists. The IF will have let down the entire sport they are supposed to represent.

Assuming, of course, it's all true.

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Re: Dopings and the Olympics

Postby richsieb » Thu Jan 17, 2013 17:38 pm

Cheers for the responses guys, interesting to see what you think as i know nothing of the matter :)


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