Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

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Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby halffattony » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:06 am

I am turning 50 soon and have decided to celebrate the occasion with the purchase of a new bike to replace my ageing Marin Mount Vision, I have short listed the Whyte 146XI and the Yeti SB66 or SB66 Carbon but have not reached a final decision on which to go for.

This will probably be the last bike I ever buy as although these are high end bikes, I do not earn much more than the minimum wage, so this will be a big purchase for me that I will expect to get at least 10 years use out of my final choice.

What do you think?

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lawman » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:20 am

What kind of riding do you plan to do? Both are very different to your mount vision! The 146 is a very aggressive trail bike, IMO it's one of the best around, but it is a lot of bike despite its low weight and the slack geometry will be completely different to what you're used to. Marin and whyte used to share a lot o stuff but in the last few years whytes have left their old conservative side behind and gone for a more radical approach. Obviously if you feel you're riding justifies such a bike then it's bloody awesome, but it is completely different to a mount vision, likewise the yeti.

If you want to really push limits the whyte or yeti are great bikes, but if you want something like the mount vision then the yeti asr5 would be a better choice and it can still be riot on the downhills too

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:33 am

Yeti's seem to last forever so might be good for a long term bike. A couple mates have had Yeti's for several years and don't get bored with them. Have you looked at the Intense Spider or Tracer? They are both very nice.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lawman » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:44 am

Could always look at Ibis ;) (can't believe I didn't mention them first time! :shock:)

Ibis customer service is legendary should you ever need it and the bikes ride really nicely too. The Sl-r might be just what you're looking for and is cheaper than the sb66 and you can build a super light bike very easily.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby styxd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:59 am

halffattony wrote:I am turning 50 soon and have decided to celebrate the occasion with the purchase of a new bike to replace my ageing Marin Mount Vision, I have short listed the Whyte 146XI and the Yeti SB66 or SB66 Carbon but have not reached a final decision on which to go for.

This will probably be the last bike I ever buy as although these are high end bikes, I do not earn much more than the minimum wage, so this will be a big purchase for me that I will expect to get at least 10 years use out of my final choice.

What do you think?


10 years use out of a 150mm trail bike? If you're riding it properly then I'd guess you'd be lucky to get 3 years out of it before something on it breaks.

Have you considered something less "hardcore"?

For what its worth, Nicolai have a very good warranty (5 years). I'd consider them if you want a bike that lasts.

Or what about something like a Cotic Rocket? Steel, so if something did go wrong it may be easier to repair than an alloy or carbon frame. Also, good customer service.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lostboysaint » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:03 am

Can't help thinking that what you ACTUALLY want isn't either of those but is a 120-140mm travel less extreme full sus such as the Ibis mentioned, the Tranny Bandit, the Yeti ASR5 Carbon - fundamentally something that is a little less "extended" in the geometry and a much better allround ride as a result.
Trail fun - Transition Bandit
Road - Wilier Izoard Centaur
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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:13 am

10 years use out of a 150mm trail bike? If you're riding it properly then I'd guess you'd be lucky to get 3 years out of it before something on it breaks.



Thats ****. I know of several AM bikes which are still going after nearly ten years of hard riding.
As his post does not say what type of riding he intends to do how can you say that a 150mm bike isn't right?

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby styxd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:08 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:
10 years use out of a 150mm trail bike? If you're riding it properly then I'd guess you'd be lucky to get 3 years out of it before something on it breaks.



Thats ****. I know of several AM bikes which are still going after nearly ten years of hard riding.


I call BS. AM bikes didnt exist 10 years ago.

Trail centre riders?

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:53 pm

Not quite 10 years but early Hecklers, Orange Patriot's & Specialized Enduro's can't be far off that (Enduro I think is actually 10 years old). They do the Megavalanche on them every year and ride the local DH trails every weekend riding blasting down then climbing back up, they were riding gravity enduro before it was invented.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby styxd » Wed Jan 23, 2013 13:56 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:Not quite 10 years but early Hecklers, Orange Patriot's & Specialized Enduro's can't be far off that (Enduro I think is actually 10 years old). They do the Megavalanche on them every year and ride the local DH trails every weekend riding blasting down then climbing back up, they were riding gravity enduro before it was invented.


Could be pure luck! The old Patriots and Enduro's had problems with cracking from what I remember.

But still ,I dont think they're in the same category of bike. Heavy old alloy frames compared to 150mm travel super bikes that weigh little more than an XC bike. Somethings gotta give?

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 14:44 pm

Don't Specialized give a lifetime warranty & Giant Give 10 years? Others also give long warranties. They wouldn't do that if they weren't confident that the frame would last.
Carbon frames are very light but they are also very strong.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lawman » Wed Jan 23, 2013 15:39 pm

Carbon frames are mega strong, I believe Yeti now offer a 5 year warranty though I might be wrong. Ibis has a year warranty, after which any problems for the original owner will be cost price, so dirt cheap, and even then they have been known to help out others after buying second hand. Fantastic bikes and a fantastic company! :D

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 15:56 pm

lawman wrote: Fantastic bikes and a fantastic company! :D


Are you on commission?

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby sofaboy73 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 16:18 pm

to the OP - have a look at the santa cruz nomad carbons. i looked at all three and after a few test rides, went for the SC. felt like the most versatile and fund out of the lot of them imo

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby ricardo_smooth » Wed Jan 23, 2013 16:55 pm

bear in mind the rear service link kit for an SB66 is nigh on £400..............factor that into our price 'at some point'

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby EH_Rob » Wed Jan 23, 2013 17:06 pm

lawman wrote:Ibis


lawman wrote:cost price


lawman wrote:dirt cheap


Not sure I quite agree on the dirt cheap thing.

Also, believe it or not, there are other manufacturers out there who make bikes. Honestly.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lawman » Wed Jan 23, 2013 18:44 pm

RockmonkeySC wrote:
lawman wrote: Fantastic bikes and a fantastic company! :D


Are you on commission?


Not at all, wish I was though! :lol: The brand itself is more than just selling you the bike, the after care is unbelievably good, just take a look at MTBR and you'll see countless good stories and I've yet to hear of anyone at all who's had issues with them.

I'm a big fan of their designs too, its how it should be... "here's where the important stuff needs to go, do what you like with the bits in between". The quality in my experience is second to none, everything is superbly finished and put together and they look stunning. There's no marketing BS either or a change of colour or model every year and I look forward to which direction they go in future, asking the people what they want as they did on MTBR is going the right way if you ask me.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby supersonic » Wed Jan 23, 2013 18:49 pm

But you had to get the shock completely redone to get it to work right?!

;-)

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Jan 23, 2013 18:49 pm

There are other manufacturers who's customer service is as good as you describe. I have found Nukeproof's customer service to be amazingly good and spares availability & prices are better than any other manufacturer I have dealt with. Giant, On-One, Orange & Charge are also extremely good.

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Re: Yeti SB66 vs. Whyte 146XI ?

Postby lawman » Wed Jan 23, 2013 19:07 pm

supersonic wrote:But you had to get the shock completely redone to get it to work right?!

;-)


It worked fine, but now its better :P Anybodies bike would benefit from a shock tune for their preferences, it has to deal with a whole range of weights and riders so its unlikely to be absolutely spot on out of the box. No bike is absolutely perfect off the shelf imo, there will always be something you want to change.

Bikes from the US typically are a touch steeper, shorter and higher than those designed here in the uk, and its noticeable with Ibis, which is maybe the one criticism of them. Everybody has their own personal preferences after all :wink:


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