New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Discuss the eternal "Which fork/bike/tyres should I buy?" questions.
Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:39 am

So, after a year off the MTB (high-maintenance pregnant wife, followed by baby) things are now settled enough that I can get away with getting back on the trails. The thing is, my old MTB is looking shabby and past it, it weighs a ton, and, well... I just want a new one.

I reckon I can get away with approx £1k. Less would be good and if something really special catches my eye, I might justify a little more. I'll be trading in or e-baying my old bike, and the proceeds will affect my budget. My old bike is a Gary Fisher Cake 3, full sus, and is about 6 years old.

I think I can get a decent hardtail for that budget and I don't really need full sus anyway. I ride local trails with the odd (annual) trip to Afan.

I'd like some advice and tips on the new bike please. I fancy a 29er and somethinhg lightweight but well specced (for the price). I know I'll get better 2nd hand, but I'm a bit of a ponse and fancy a new shiny thing. Happy to go for a 2012 to get more bang for the buck.

Any suggestions?


Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:37 pm

Thanks - I'm liking the look of the Canyons. LBS has been tempting me with the Rockhopper 29er as well, and its going for about £800 if I remember right, but then again it's had some bad press (frame downgrade).

How do the fixtures and fittings compare on the Canyons? I'm not sure where they sit in the overall hierarchy. I guess there's a thread somewhere that can help me with that, I'll have a search.

User avatar
supersonic
Lives Here
Posts: 81828
Joined: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:50 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby supersonic » Sun Feb 03, 2013 13:14 pm

The Rockhoppers cannot keep up with the Canyons on spec.

Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 13:36 pm

It was a rockhopper pro, SRAM, can't remember the rest. Think I'm edging toward the canyon...

Wonder if a local shop has them in. Will get googling and make notes.

Typical process is for me to spend ages dithering, make extensive notes, compare to death, then buy the one I first wanted.

bleasy
Posts: 74
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:11 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby bleasy » Sun Feb 03, 2013 13:49 pm

Canyons are buy direct from canyon, your local bike shop won't have then in I'm afraid

LJ.
Posts: 146
Joined: Fri Aug 31, 2012 15:25 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby LJ. » Sun Feb 03, 2013 16:01 pm

I'd definitly say away from the rockhopper, it's so far behind those Grand Canyons

CB75
Posts: 48
Joined: Tue Dec 25, 2012 21:52 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby CB75 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 17:41 pm

the khs yuma looks good as far as 29ers go. think its round about the grand mark but again its a direct buy.

AAddict
Posts: 75
Joined: Wed Sep 05, 2012 21:11 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby AAddict » Sun Feb 03, 2013 20:54 pm


Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 14:30 pm

I think it's narrowed down to these two:

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/spe ... e-ec042246

http://www.canyon.com/_en/mountainbikes ... ab-reiter2

The Rockhopper is £850 in the LBS, so a price difference of about £280. Do you reckon the difference in spec is worth the £280? I am not 100% sure how the relative components rate against each other. I think the Canyon's forks are better, but I'm not sure on the rest - anyone able to offer advice?

The Rockhopper seems the safer bet (available in LBS, a bit cheaper, can try sizes etc) but somehow the Canyon is calling me. I appreciate any words of wisdom and experience that you lot may have to offer. Sorry to go on, but at the end of the day shelling out a grand on a bike is a lot to me, so I want to try not to regret the choice.

Thanks!

Chunkers1980
Posts: 7909
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2009 14:12 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Chunkers1980 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 14:36 pm

I'd have the cube that Aaddict link to.

User avatar
The Rookie
Posts: 23042
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 09:29 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby The Rookie » Wed Feb 06, 2013 15:13 pm

Benjo74 wrote:The Rockhopper is £850 in the LBS, so a price difference of about £280. Do you reckon the difference in spec is worth the £280? I am not 100% sure how the relative components rate against each other. I think the Canyon's forks are better, but I'm not sure on the rest - anyone able to offer advice?

The Canyons forks are much much better - as well as being about 1/2Kg lighter, as is just about everything else on the bike.....unless you can't afford the Canyon, there is no good reason to buy the Rock, even then there are others better, much better, that bike is just not good value for money.

Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 19:57 pm

So I reckon the rockhopper is off the short list. This other cube was also recommended to me but, again, I'm not sure how the spec compares to the canyon or Aaddict's cube...

http://www.bromleybike.co.uk/shop/bikes ... 50449.html

Chunkers1980
Posts: 7909
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2009 14:12 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Chunkers1980 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 20:13 pm

It's no where near that other Cube.

Spacedog
Posts: 89
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 08:36 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Spacedog » Wed Feb 06, 2013 21:34 pm

The Spesh would have a higher resale value than the others.

paulneenan76
Posts: 737
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:46 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby paulneenan76 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 21:43 pm

Spacedog wrote:The Spesh would have a higher resale value than the others.


How is that relevant? I doubt it has a much stronger resale value considering the poor spec etc. yes it's a reliable and globally recognised brand but its not great value. Ask most people on here and they would likely chose a different bike over a Rockhopper. And the difference at this price point would be negligible I'd say.
Family, Friends, Fantastic trails - what else is there

viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=12898838
viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=12897374

User avatar
The Rookie
Posts: 23042
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 09:29 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby The Rookie » Wed Feb 06, 2013 21:52 pm

Watch ebay, Specialized fetch far more than they should generally, most people buy on name, not capability!

User avatar
cooldad
Posts: 28171
Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 22:01 pm

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby cooldad » Wed Feb 06, 2013 21:55 pm

But who buys a sh1t bike for resale value?
I don't do smileys.

There is no secret ingredient - Kung Fu Panda

London Calling on Facebook

Parktools

Benjo74
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:15 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Benjo74 » Wed Feb 06, 2013 22:40 pm

cooldad wrote:But who buys a sh1t bike for resale value?


Agreed - I'm not arsed about resale value, I'm buying it to ride and crash and eventually run into the ground. In my mind, the cash I'm laying out is payment for the good times I'm hoping to have on the bike. Not an investment that I hope to claw back.

I had similar comments from my brother in law (a car salesman) when I was getting a new car. "This colour is more popular, this engine is better resale, those extras are dead money, etc". I didn't care - I wanted the gadgets I wanted and the colour etc i wanted, not what the next owner might want.

Having said that, I also want to get the best components etc for my budget (who wouldn't?), and so I really do appreciate all the advice here, as I personally don't know how the various components rank against each other and I'd be annoyed if I bought a bike and subsequently realised I could have got something more effective / reliable / robust / lightweight / etc for the same price or less.

Spacedog
Posts: 89
Joined: Mon Oct 22, 2012 08:36 am

Re: New hardtail, £1,000 ish

Postby Spacedog » Wed Feb 06, 2013 22:43 pm

I'm not saying its the most important thing, but it's something to keep in mind.

With cars a VW will cost more but will have a higher resale value when you sell it.... than say a Citroen.

I churn bikes every 2-3 years so is an important factor. Saying that, i am not expecting my Pivot to have a high resale value it's not a very cool brand. If it was an Ibis, yeti, Santacruz etc... It would expect to get more for it.


Return to “MTB Buying Advice”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Un-decided and 2 guests