Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RichN95 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 03:04 am

OCDuPalais wrote:Midnight Run, however, is possibly my fav all-time Hollywood film of that genre/ilk!.. Charles Grodin, DeNiro, Yaphet Kotto, Dennis Farina, Joe Pantoliano... magic.

My top five has been set in stone for some time. When I tell people and name four classics followed by Midnight Run, I either get a puzzled look or "Oh yes, great choice". People who were surprised at DeNiro doing comedy in Meet the Parents are idiots.

Long way off topic here, but that's one of this forum's strengths, we amble all over the place. It's fun.

On topic films:
Out of Africa
Froome with a View
Froome at the Top
Brad Lieutenant
Froome Raider
(TV Show: Breaking Brad)
(Song: Kenya Feel It by The Jacksons)
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby OCDuPalais » Sun Feb 03, 2013 03:31 am

DeNiro made me laugh in Stardust, too.

In the midst of shouty stereotypes, they still had time for lovely subtle touches... e.g. the DeNiro head-shake in this scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XyHK34JWPo

There are lauded film makers who never come close in an entire career to matching what this film achieves in a few moments...

Whilst wondering what happened to Charles Grodin, I unearthed loads of stuff that has me like him even more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XyHK34JWPo

what a shame he was consigned to so many turkeys.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Yellow Peril » Sun Feb 03, 2013 09:37 am

If Grodin and DeNiro were doing a big budget film would Grodin be allowed to upstage DeNiro or would he be under team orders to wait?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Mad_Malx » Sun Feb 03, 2013 09:57 am

Daz555 wrote:If Froome does what Wiggo tells him, then yes he can win.

One small possibility though is that Wiggo ends up in full support of Froome but never actually cracks. Wiggo then ends up beating Froome as a result of the time he will doubt take out of him even with the reduced TT mileage at this Tour.


This crossed my mind, but this year there are 3 alp stages after the last TT, Sky will commit to one leader (unless something goes wrong).
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Richmond Racer » Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:20 am

OCDuPalais wrote:
Richmond Racer wrote:
Squaggles wrote:At least he does attack rather than looking at his power meter , less efficient but more exciting



Actually Froome looks at his power meter a lot - he was like a nodding dog in the Vuelta



You think that's what he's doing?
I genuinely believe he's looking down to recreate his Turbo maximal interval sessions...
No really - don't believe that even the best in the World are looking at their Power Meters at the crux point of the hardest stages of the hardest races in the World when it's all kicking off. Seriously - the idea that anyone is in a position to make qualitative assessments of their outputs (and then make the appropriate adjustments) in the last few K of a MTF is a nonsense to me.

Watch the last 3Km of the Planche des Belles Filles stage at last year's Tour and show me anyone of the contenders looking at their flipping PM's...



Alright, fair comment. Citing Planche des Belles Filles and you've got me. Maybe it was just something I noticed in the Vuelta and its a bit of a habit he has - or he was really just making a study of Spanish road surfaces :)
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby rob churchill » Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:03 am

RichN95 wrote:
OCDuPalais wrote:Midnight Run, however, is possibly my fav all-time Hollywood film of that genre/ilk!.. Charles Grodin, DeNiro, Yaphet Kotto, Dennis Farina, Joe Pantoliano... magic.

My top five has been set in stone for some time. When I tell people and name four classics followed by Midnight Run, I either get a puzzled look or "Oh yes, great choice". People who were surprised at DeNiro doing comedy in Meet the Parents are idiots.

Long way off topic here, but that's one of this forum's strengths, we amble all over the place. It's fun.

On topic films:
Out of Africa
Froome with a View
Froome at the Top
Brad Lieutenant
Froome Raider
(TV Show: Breaking Brad)
(Song: Kenya Feel It by The Jacksons)


Oooh, there's a challenge if ever I saw one. Ok, I'll start with a song, see if I can come up with a film or two later;

Africa (What Made You So Strong?) - by Johnny Clegg and Savuka.






...and for the record, I see no compelling reason to suppose that the answer is anything other than dedication, training, and fortunate genetics. :wink:
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby chrisday » Sun Feb 03, 2013 13:58 pm

RichN95 wrote:
OCDuPalais wrote:Midnight Run, however, is possibly my fav all-time Hollywood film of that genre/ilk!.. Charles Grodin, DeNiro, Yaphet Kotto, Dennis Farina, Joe Pantoliano... magic.

My top five has been set in stone for some time. When I tell people and name four classics followed by Midnight Run, I either get a puzzled look or "Oh yes, great choice".


Count that another "Oh yes, great choice" here! Midnight Run's in my top 5, and is a SPECTACULARLY underrated film...

And, on topic - don't think so. In the battle between my two main "want to like you for your riding style, actually dislike you for your dodginess/personality [delete as applicable]" protagonists, Bertie will have the better of Fenton. Still see him getting a podium if he can hack the pressure and avoid un jour sans
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby r0bh » Sun Feb 03, 2013 14:08 pm

I think Froome is physically capable of winning but is likely to have at least one brain fart akin to his trackstanding episode with Bertie at the Vuelta last year. He needs to win some one week stage races first like Wiggo in 2012.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Macaloon » Sun Feb 03, 2013 17:49 pm

Several area codes East of Topic, but I'm in need of handers resolving a credibility-threatening dispute about the merits of Full Metal Jacket vs Apocalypse Now.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby mike6 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 18:25 pm

Back to the subject.

Why not?

2nd in the Vuelta, 2nd in the Tour, very good climber and an excellent TT rider, so why not?

Unless, of course, you just dont like him, or indeed, he rides for Sky.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby rob churchill » Sun Feb 03, 2013 21:41 pm

On topic movies: too obscure?

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'The Mystery of the Yellow Froome'
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby symo » Mon Feb 04, 2013 16:57 pm

Froome-Dawg to win

Contador - sh!te team backup.
Schleck - lacks conviction.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby RichN95 » Mon Feb 04, 2013 17:08 pm

symo wrote:Froome-Dawg to win

Contador - sh!te team backup.
Schleck - lacks conviction.

Contador can call on some decent support (they may not all do the Tour): Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers, Sorenson, Zaugg, Tiralongo....
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Rick Chasey » Mon Feb 04, 2013 17:22 pm

Panic froome?

I'll get my coat.
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby symo » Mon Feb 04, 2013 17:34 pm

RichN95 wrote:Contador can call on some decent support (they may not all do the Tour): Kreuziger, Roche, Rogers, Sorenson, Zaugg, Tiralongo....


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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby rob churchill » Mon Feb 04, 2013 18:50 pm

'For Froome the Bellharzia Tolls'














I don't even know how I got here. Does anyone have a coat I could borrow?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 18:59 pm

Will my straight-jacket do? :)
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby rob churchill » Mon Feb 04, 2013 19:01 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:Will my straight-jacket do? :)


Is it a Rapha?
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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby Richmond Racer » Mon Feb 04, 2013 19:02 pm

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Re: Be honest, will Froome win the Tour?

Postby rob churchill » Mon Feb 04, 2013 19:07 pm

Richmond Racer wrote:Castelli


Thanks, but no thanks. I could maybe wear an Assos strait-jacket, but only on dress-down Friday.
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