Monty Dog wrote:I had an Alan Record Carbonio - they were making them up until a few years ago - it wasn't the stiffest frame in the world and the aluminium fork was horrible - harsh and flexy at the same time! Vitus did the Carbon 8 frame and it was also available branded Peugeot AFAIK. The first carbon Colnagos were is fact rebadged Alans, likewise for Guerciottis too. The Alan, Look, TVT and Vitus/Peugeot all appeared at about the same time - late 1980s. Craig Calfee in the US has been making carbon frames since 1988 too - and I think it was a rebadged Calfee that LeMond rode for Z-Peugeot in 1990. The Vitus used to suffer from horrible galvanic corrosion due to unanodised aluminium lugs - the joints would come unstuck and split the carbon tubes.
Alan carbon were not around pre Look..at least as pro team issue-maybe club level
MO Lemond was on a TVT in 1990 badged as a Lemond, identical butting to my Look Carbon and then my TVT 92-replaced the look-...Ron Kithcining did cause the Look carbon broke apart at bottom bracket.
Lemond was , in 1989, on a TVT rebadged as a Bottechia-but not his TT frame-that was a USA made frame I think, and his 1990 TDF low profile was a carbon like a TVT with slope down tube, PDM used it too in 1990. IMO there were NO carbon frames-team issue in pro peloton as team issue or in carbon appearance-black/grey woven fabric as tubing pre JF Bernard 1987 Mont Ventoux. Toshiba was first in 87 on Carbon andWeinman LA Suisse on TVT in 1988, Reynolds (Delgado) in 88...craig calfee?
PDM were on Concorde till 89 and Kelly with KAs ona non carbon vitus as were Cafe De columbia up to 88