Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as broke

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Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as broke

Postby beerglass007 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 20:14 pm

I brought a Norco Sight 2 SE 2012 and cracked the frame

I've taken it back to Evans and its under warranty.

Now I love the bike ( when it was going ) but had 2 issues. The frame has a funny yellow strain which was getting worse and very strange. Then last weekend noticed a crack on the frame.

I'm now weighing up my options, replace frame or replace for a completely new different bike

New bike option, what bike ????

How is the Lapierre Zesty 514 2012 compared to the Norco Sight 2 SE ?

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby cooldad » Wed Jul 18, 2012 20:33 pm

Is the choice up to you?
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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby equinefunk » Wed Jul 18, 2012 22:23 pm

I had a minorpaint issue with my Norco & Evans swapped the frame. I don't think they'll give you a refund or another bike unless you've only had it a couple of days.

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby paul.skibum » Thu Jul 19, 2012 04:46 am

I'm pretty sure they will warranty your frame with Norco and give you the bike back as it was. Its supposed to be a cracking (sorry) ride - how did you find it? Was it good to ride aside from the stain and crack?
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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 04:55 am

This is it...

The bike was amazing. Its just got a big "????" over it now for me.

Will it happen again, will the new frame go yellow?

Will i need another frame etc etc

I have the choice now to swap for another bike, e.g 514 maybe ?

Is this any good ? or stay with Norco and ride the storm

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby equinefunk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:18 am

Evans have given you the choice to swap to a 514? I've ridden both & preferred the Norco. They are both good bikes, but it's all about fit. All aluminium frames are fabrications & can be subject to mechanical failure. Out of a batch of x thousand there are bound to be failures. If they swap the frame you'll get the Norco Sight LE, which is black so now yellowing. I bet you'll find frame failures on 514 as well. I've ridden mine hard & I've never felt any worries everything is good. I think you've just been unlucky.

They swapped my whole frame because it had flaking paint on the rocker arm.

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby lawman » Thu Jul 19, 2012 06:32 am

equinefunk wrote:Evans have given you the choice to swap to a 514? I've ridden both & preferred the Norco. They are both good bikes, but it's all about fit. All aluminium frames are fabrications & can be subject to mechanical failure. Out of a batch of x thousand there are bound to be failures. If they swap the frame you'll get the Norco Sight LE, which is black so now yellowing. I bet you'll find frame failures on 514 as well. I've ridden mine hard & I've never felt any worries everything is good. I think you've just been unlucky.

They swapped my whole frame because it had flaking paint on the rocker arm.


Well put it this way, lapierre have a rep for cracking/snapping, I often refer to them as snapierre, a mates lasted 3 weeks before the swingarm was cleaved in two. Stick with the norco

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby Stu Coops » Thu Jul 19, 2012 08:07 am

I know lots of riders with 514's including myself and nobody has had any issues and awesome bikes to ride but the Norco is a good bike too, as for silly comments like "i often refer to them as snapierre" he answered his own question out of mass production you'll always get failure. I often refer to this as one of those things.
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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 09:08 am

equinefunk wrote:Evans have given you the choice to swap to a 514? I've ridden both & preferred the Norco. They are both good bikes, but it's all about fit. All aluminium frames are fabrications & can be subject to mechanical failure. Out of a batch of x thousand there are bound to be failures. If they swap the frame you'll get the Norco Sight LE, which is black so now yellowing. I bet you'll find frame failures on 514 as well. I've ridden mine hard & I've never felt any worries everything is good. I think you've just been unlucky.

They swapped my whole frame because it had flaking paint on the rocker arm.



Hi you sound surpised by this ? Is this a good deal ?

How and why did the Norco feel better.

I do know what you mean about the feel of the bike. I've only ridden the Norco and came from an old Spec stumpy 2006. The Norco feels like a mini DH bike and really feels stable. Very stiff uphill and pulls well

Does the 514 have that wide DH feel ?

The Norco seems to use all the travel, even when putting more air into the forks and shock. It really soaks up the hits and allowed me to get away with alot more faster riding.

If the 514 is more racey and ars* in air, then its not for me.

Anyone?

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby equinefunk » Thu Jul 19, 2012 09:51 am

Hi you sound surpised by this ? Is this a good deal ?

How and why did the Norco feel better.

I do know what you mean about the feel of the bike. I've only ridden the Norco and came from an old Spec stumpy 2006. The Norco feels like a mini DH bike and really feels stable. Very stiff uphill and pulls well

Does the 514 have that wide DH feel ?

The Norco seems to use all the travel, even when putting more air into the forks and shock. It really soaks up the hits and allowed me to get away with alot more faster riding.

If the 514 is more racey and ars* in air, then its not for me.

Anyone?


By surprised do you mean that they would offer another bike instead of the Norco Sight. I am, I thought they would limit their responsibility solely to the Frame & get Norco to sort it out. Rather than say, we'll take that back & you choose another bike. If that's what they're doing that's a lot more than any of my LBS's.

I'm not that eliquent to say in detail why I preferred the Norco, for me & my size & build it felt a better fit. I felt that instantly at home on it. I love getting out and riding it, I go out 3 times a week and pound out 20mile XC rides, I do Trail Centres & tackle stuff that I didn't before. I thought it was a bit better value in terms of kit as well, full XT is cracking. I wouldn't wish for another 26" Trail Bike.

The Zesty is a fantastic bike & I was close to buying. But I didn't feel as at home on it when I sat on it & rode it.

As an analogy it's the difference between an Audi & a BMW.....

If you're worried about future frame failures, are you thinking it's a flawed design that is prone to failure? I doubt it these are from BC & the Engineer has a Rolls Royce background. Or that the Manufacuring is not upto scratch? I don't know much about Bike manufacture but I believe that most of these frames are made in Taiwan, which I guess the Zesty is....maybe in the same factory.
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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby Stu Coops » Thu Jul 19, 2012 17:44 pm

equinefunk wrote:Hi you sound surpised by this ? Is this a good deal ?

How and why did the Norco feel better.

I do know what you mean about the feel of the bike. I've only ridden the Norco and came from an old Spec stumpy 2006. The Norco feels like a mini DH bike and really feels stable. Very stiff uphill and pulls well

Does the 514 have that wide DH feel ?

The Norco seems to use all the travel, even when putting more air into the forks and shock. It really soaks up the hits and allowed me to get away with alot more faster riding.

If the 514 is more racey and ars* in air, then its not for me.

Anyone?


By surprised do you mean that they would offer another bike instead of the Norco Sight. I am, I thought they would limit their responsibility solely to the Frame & get Norco to sort it out. Rather than say, we'll take that back & you choose another bike. If that's what they're doing that's a lot more than any of my LBS's.

I'm not that eliquent to say in detail why I preferred the Norco, for me & my size & build it felt a better fit. I felt that instantly at home on it. I love getting out and riding it, I go out 3 times a week and pound out 20mile XC rides, I do Trail Centres & tackle stuff that I didn't before. I thought it was a bit better value in terms of kit as well, full XT is cracking. I wouldn't wish for another 26" Trail Bike.

The Zesty is a fantastic bike & I was close to buying. But I didn't feel as at home on it when I sat on it & rode it.

As an analogy it's the difference between an Audi & a BMW.....

If you're worried about future frame failures, are you thinking it's a flawed design that is prone to failure? I doubt it these are from BC & the Engineer has a Rolls Royce background. Or that the Manufacuring is not upto scratch? I don't know much about Bike manufacture but I believe that most of these frames are made in Taiwan, which I guess the Zesty is....maybe in the same factory.[/quote]

I wouldn't say it has a DH feel about it compared to a full on DH rig but I have given mine some serious punishment on saying that i'm no Danny Hart as for racy i'd say and head down ars* up not really it will happily climb, go down well and everything in between just a good all rounder really "just my opinion" hope that helps
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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby mikerawly83 » Mon Jul 23, 2012 17:12 pm

Hi just read through you posts and what did evans say about the yellowing!! I've had mine for two weeks an love it! Only been out once to llandegla. But I noticed the yellowing after about a week on the headset and it's been gettin worse since. It also appeared round the cranks and on some nuts! Is this happening to all White frames! Or is it just a few! Obviously doesn't effect the ride but for £2.5k you'd expect it to last longer than a week!
Any info will be much appreciated!

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 22:30 pm

mikerawly83 wrote:Hi just read through you posts and what did evans say about the yellowing!! I've had mine for two weeks an love it! Only been out once to llandegla. But I noticed the yellowing after about a week on the headset and it's been gettin worse since. It also appeared round the cranks and on some nuts! Is this happening to all White frames! Or is it just a few! Obviously doesn't effect the ride but for £2.5k you'd expect it to last longer than a week!
Any info will be much appreciated!


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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 23:29 pm

When I brought the bike

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Few weeks later

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Then the cracked frame

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Tue Jul 31, 2012 23:36 pm

http://www.lapierre-bikes.co.uk/mtb/all-mountain/zesty/zesty-514#onglets

Are these any good

Would anyone recommend a zesy 314 or 514 ?

I've been looking at the spesh stumpty EVO 2013 but wondering if the extra 150MM long travel and only a 15MM bolt and 32MM forks will flex like hell

Anyone ?

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Aug 01, 2012 07:45 am

beerglass007 wrote:http://www.lapierre-bikes.co.uk/mtb/all-mountain/zesty/zesty-514#onglets

Are these any good

Would anyone recommend a zesy 314 or 514 ?

I've been looking at the spesh stumpty EVO 2013 but wondering if the extra 150MM long travel and only a 15MM bolt and 32MM forks will flex like hell

Anyone ?


You had a bike which cracked & want to replace it with a Lappierre, a manufacturer which is known for producing weak frames.
Any frame can crack. No matter which manufacturer or design there will be material flaws & welding faults. Some frames have just got weak designs which will be prone to cracking, my Giant Reign X broke two linkages and it's a common fault. Lappierre frames are also known for cracking, I know two people who have cracked the back end of their Zesty's and everyone I have met with DH720's has cracked their frames.

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby beerglass007 » Wed Aug 01, 2012 09:19 am

Ok, so sounds like a lapierre isnt a good buy

What about the spesh Stumpty FSR EVO COMP 2013?

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby RockmonkeySC » Wed Aug 01, 2012 09:38 am

Good bike but I would rather have the Norco, it's a great ride & it sounds like you just got a bad frame. I would take the new frame and enjoy a great bike.

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby topfridgeman » Wed Feb 27, 2013 19:04 pm

Has anyone had a problem with the bearing in the blue rocker collapsing? Mine's just fell to bits halfway round a lap of Llandegla and ground a bit of alloy away from the rocker. It's about 8 months old and only gets used about twice a month, mostly at Llandegla. Also, when it was about 3 months old, it snapped the lower swingarm bolt off at Gizburn. This is apparently a fairy common faliure?

Although I've had a few issues, I still love the Norco. It rides ace. Mine's an SE with the fox forks in white(and a bit of yellow ;) ).

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Re: Brought a Norco Sight 2 SE but need to replace it as bro

Postby supersonic » Wed Feb 27, 2013 19:06 pm

Bearings are usually treated as consumables and need regular checking. The bolt issues I have heard of and is not a consumable: if this contributed to the bearing failure then you have a claim against them.


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