The Greeks are revolting!

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The Greeks are revolting!

Postby SimonAH » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:27 pm

Ugly scenes today.

If they can't push through the austerity measures then no bailout. Return of the drachma?
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby chilling » Wed Nov 07, 2012 17:37 pm

Or even better...

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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby Hoopdriver » Wed Nov 07, 2012 18:31 pm

Yes, aren't they...

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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby Initialised » Wed Nov 07, 2012 19:27 pm

Hopefully they can follow Iceland's example and assume a path that doesn't saddle the populace with the debts of a handful of unscrupulous bankers. Scotland is likely to take this path when it gains independence.
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby nicklouse » Wed Nov 07, 2012 20:06 pm

Oh i have a few Drachma from years ago.
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby MaxwellBygraves » Wed Nov 07, 2012 20:42 pm

100,000 Greeks outside parliament demanding politicians leave:

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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby jamesco » Wed Nov 07, 2012 20:59 pm

Initialised wrote:Hopefully they can follow Iceland's example and assume a path that doesn't saddle the populace with the debts of a handful of unscrupulous bankers. Scotland is likely to take this path when it gains independence.

That ordinary people are suffering miserably is, of course, horrible, but Greeks would get more sympathy if they made some attempt to address tax-evasion. The trial of Costas Vaxevanis, who published a list of Greeks with Swiss bank accounts is kafkaesque; the Greek treasury was handed the list 2 years ago, managed to 'lose' it and never got around to asking for another copy. Yet somehow Vaxevanis is the one being tried for bringing evasion to light?

I don't buy the equivalence between Iceland and Greece; Iceland's economy was wrecked by private bankers, that of Greece by the politicians the people elected in a system of bribery. Austerity is not the solution, but the Greeks have got to start healing themselves otherwise a bailout will be seen as throwing good money after bad. Getting rid of the neo-nazi thugs inside and outside parliament would be a start.

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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby velohutts » Wed Nov 07, 2012 21:26 pm

hopefully they are not all spartans !
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby daviesee » Wed Nov 07, 2012 23:32 pm

Initialised wrote:..........Scotland is likely to take this path when it gains independence.

You know the result of the vote?
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby FoldingJoe » Thu Nov 08, 2012 08:02 am

MaxwellBygraves wrote:100,000 Greeks outside parliament demanding politicians leave:

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Sure that picture is taken from the hotel I stay in when visiting our client in Athens.
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby mudcow007 » Thu Nov 08, 2012 08:39 am

the french are pretty 'orrible aswell
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby t4tomo » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:12 am

FoldingJoe wrote:
MaxwellBygraves wrote:100,000 Greeks outside parliament demanding politicians leave:



Sure that picture is taken from the hotel I stay in when visiting our client in Athens.


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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby LeePaton » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:31 am

daviesee wrote:
Initialised wrote:..........Scotland is likely to take this path when it gains independence.

You know the result of the vote?


Seriously hope not, Long live the union.

Greece is buggered. So corrupt is sickening, until they sort that it will remain that way.
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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby The Rookie » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:37 am

I agree, we have a Greek at work, he loves his country but can't abide the laziness while tax evasion is seen as morally legitemate....

The austerity looks tough but it will still leave them with a budget deficit, but the medicine is much worse than the illness if they do default, after all they will then HAVE to balance their budget as no-one would lend them anything, it took Argentina over 10 years to recover from defaulting.

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Re: The Greeks are revolting!

Postby TheStone » Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:46 am

In fairness to Germany, they're doing as much as they should.
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The Greeks (and many Western countries) don't seem to have worked out where the problems are. They're trying to bring down their government, because they want a bigger one!


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