Turbo training and rpe

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simwilli
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Turbo training and rpe

Postby simwilli » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:13 pm

When i train on my turbo i find my legs
really screem and my breathing rate is high
but my heart rate pretty low. i struggle to get my
heart rate above zone 3 but my legs and breathing
rate feel like i'm working much harder. should i just
work off rpe or keep using heart rate?!

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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby ajmitchell » Sat Nov 10, 2012 14:12 pm

your description sounds like training at too high an intensity for short periods, HR lags behind output for about 5mins.

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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby danowat » Sat Nov 10, 2012 15:31 pm

RPE is better than HR, Power is better than both (IME)

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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby Tom Butcher » Sat Nov 10, 2012 16:39 pm

I'd trust HR over rpe in this case - if you can't get your HR up on the turbo then you probably just find it harder to motivate yourself to work hard on a turbo.

Yes HR lags behind effort etc etc but that would be the same on the road or turbo - it wouldn't explain why you can get a higher HR on the road than turbo.
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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby dw300 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 18:34 pm

He's probably just a trainer noob. I bet he's done less than 5-10 turbo sessions recently. That's just how it feels till you adapt to riding it regularly.
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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby amaferanga » Sat Nov 10, 2012 19:10 pm

My HR is lower and RPE is higher for a given power on the turbo compared to on the road. I think that's not unusual.
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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby Bigpikle » Sat Nov 10, 2012 21:49 pm

RPE is poor for indoor sessions - heat, lack of wind, less distractions, no junctions and easier coasting sections etc all make it feel harder than it is. As said it also takes time to get used to it.
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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby NapoleonD » Sat Nov 10, 2012 22:31 pm

At first I found that fit a given HR/RPE the turbo was far harder but eventually that gap closes...
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Re: Turbo training and rpe

Postby danowat » Sun Nov 11, 2012 07:26 am

Bigpikle wrote:RPE is poor for indoor sessions - heat, lack of wind, less distractions, no junctions and easier coasting sections etc all make it feel harder than it is. As said it also takes time to get used to it.


Heat is one of the reasons why HR isn't good for indoor training either..........

FTR, I find 20mins @ tempo much, much harder on the turbo than 90mins @ tempo outside (using power).


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