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Do I go tubeless

Postby greggow » Mon Nov 12, 2012 14:10 pm

Hi
Newbie so be gentle ! I have been commuting to work on my bike since springtime but I will be starting shifts next month so leaving house at 05:00 for earlys the thought of punctures in winter and in the dark fills me with dread.
Having suffered four punctures in the last fortnight my commute involves a lot of country lanes and some farm tracks so thinking of going tubeless. My wheels are specialized dt swiss 420 sl the tyres are specialized the captain 26 x 2 tubes are schrader. I have watched the video on this site re converting to tubeless but what happens when changing tyres or carrying out maintenance tasks I suppose getting covered in sealant becomes an occupational hazard then again I think of a frosty January morning at 05:00 and changing the rear inner tube (whys it always the rear ?) with frozen fingers and in the dark.......sorry forgot and in the pouring rain............
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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby RyanCTJ » Mon Nov 12, 2012 14:34 pm

What pressures do you run the tyres at and what caused the punctures? That does seem a lot. I've been hammering my bike offroad for 6 months and only had my first puncture last week. Just remember even if you do go tubeless you'll need to carry a spare tube and fix a puncture the traditional way anyway.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby omegas » Mon Nov 12, 2012 21:20 pm

As post above , what type of punctures are you getting.

Change your tyres for ones that have puncture protection and fit better tubes . For the terrain you are riding I would be surprised if you get more than one puncture per year.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 21:32 pm

Tyres do make a difference. I used to suffer very frequent punctures, but in recent years I hardly get any. I run Maxxis, Kenda and Continental tyres, and stay away from ultralight race tyres, and manage fine.
I have no experience of Specialized tyres at all, but maybe others can confirm whether or not they're relatively vulnerable tyres?

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby omegas » Mon Nov 12, 2012 21:37 pm

YeehaaMcgee wrote:I have no experience of Specialized tyres at all, but maybe others can confirm whether or not they're relatively vulnerable tyres?


If they are the Specialized tyres that came with the bike as new hold them up to the light , you can see through them as they are like tissue paper.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby YeehaaMcgee » Mon Nov 12, 2012 21:57 pm

Ah, bin them and get something else then!
OEM tyres are often very cheap editions anyway.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby camerauk » Mon Nov 12, 2012 22:30 pm

I had the captain tyres when I got my camber from new
I never had a problem with that many punctures on them,
they do come in 2 different types control and Fast Trak which are the light and very thin option, I had a fast trak on the front and a control on rear but like I said not many punctures and did a fair bit of riding on them, I did split the sidewall of the front tyre but it was nearly worn out anyway and that was the fast trak thin one.
I now use the Ground Control tyres but have gone tubless with then and found them really easy to go tubless just yellow rim tape and tubless valve with stans sealant tyres inflate really easy as well with just a track pump

Also I can get the tyre off without getting the sealant everywhere I just remove one side and scoop the sealant out
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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby The Rookie » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:24 am

Road orientated tyres (I asume you commute on a road) are less puncture prone as they have less thin carcass and more tread area, on my commuter I have had 2 punctures in 3000 miles.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby greggow » Tue Nov 13, 2012 14:43 pm

Thanks for the replys the tyres arent originals I replaced the original ones as they were a bit wornI got specialized the captain sports which wern't cheap at £30 each.The recommended tyre pressures are 35-65 psi or 2.5-4.5bar I tend to run at the higher pressure.
The last puncture was a large screw about 2 " long the one before that was a nail and I have had glass and the usual thorns (particularly bad when the farmer cuts the hedges).I got rid of my road bike as I got fed up with buckled wheels so now commute on an 09 stumpjumper hardtail

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby hopper1 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 20:28 pm

RyanCTJ wrote:What pressures do you run the tyres at and what caused the punctures? That does seem a lot. I've been hammering my bike offroad for 6 months and only had my first puncture last week. Just remember even if you do go tubeless you'll need to carry a spare tube and fix a puncture the traditional way anyway.


What's wrong with the tubeless puncture kit, similar to the kits used for motorbike tyre punctures, do they not work?
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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby Chunkers1980 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 20:36 pm

It's a trail side thing.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby cooldad » Tue Nov 13, 2012 20:42 pm

Yeah good luck trying to seat the tyre and pump it up again.
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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby agentsammo » Tue Nov 13, 2012 21:51 pm

greggow wrote:Thanks for the replys the tyres arent originals I replaced the original ones as they were a bit wornI got specialized the captain sports which wern't cheap at £30 each.The recommended tyre pressures are 35-65 psi or 2.5-4.5bar I tend to run at the higher pressure.
The last puncture was a large screw about 2 " long the one before that was a nail and I have had glass and the usual thorns (particularly bad when the farmer cuts the hedges).I got rid of my road bike as I got fed up with buckled wheels so now commute on an 09 stumpjumper hardtail



I've also got these sports control 2.0 and so far i've not had a puncture and i ride on a cycle path which is covered in broken glass, nails, screws, broken branches and sharp thorns and on occasion people fighting with axes in gang warfare (not joking) i run on low pressure with tubes, not had any trouble. You might be better getting armadillo branded tyres, they are even thicker than the sport and harder but have even less grip.

Higher pressure is great for speed but crap for any sharp objects that might be on the ground., lower your pressure and try again, just be warned it's slightly harder to build speed

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby greggow » Wed Nov 14, 2012 21:51 pm

I have decided to bite the bullet and go tubeless will my rims and tyres be ok for this ? Does anyone know how much a bike shop would charge for this service presuming i could use my own rims ??? I dont mind having to change the tyres if necessary its just the thought of flats in winter on early morns is filling me with dread thanx

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby camerauk » Wed Nov 14, 2012 22:34 pm

Tyres and rims should be fine
Mine were nice and easy to convert just some yellow rim tape and a bottle of Stans sealant under £20 job done :)
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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby greggow » Mon Nov 19, 2012 14:20 pm

I had a look on an auction website and there is a 'conversion kit' available but they are around the £50 mark thats per wheel !!!! I cant justify that spend at present ...........

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby 70\'sPenguin » Mon Nov 19, 2012 14:30 pm

greggow wrote:I had a look on an auction website and there is a 'conversion kit' available but they are around the £50 mark thats per wheel !!!! I cant justify that spend at present ...........


Google Ghetto tubeless.

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby omegas » Mon Nov 19, 2012 22:34 pm

Put these on and you will probably never get a puncture again.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Imag ... 9133-1.jpg

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Re: Do I go tubeless

Postby hopper1 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 09:00 am

cooldad wrote:Yeah good luck trying to seat the tyre and pump it up again.


Ah, ok, with you now...
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