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flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby chasrock » Tue Nov 13, 2012 19:22 pm

I was flagged down my a motorist tonight and asked to turn off my flashing lights as they are illegal! I told him they are not, but he was insistant.
If you meet a twit like him the Highway Code says :
"At night your cycle MUST have white front and red rear lights lit. It MUST also be fitted with a red rear reflector (and amber pedal reflectors, if manufactured after 1/10/85). White front reflectors and spoke reflectors will also help you to be seen. Flashing lights are permitted but it is recommended that cyclists who are riding in areas without street lighting use a steady front lamp."
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby rubertoe » Tue Nov 13, 2012 19:56 pm

Two words.

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby nacnudsmada » Tue Nov 13, 2012 19:59 pm

The guy that stopped you must have a very for filling life!

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Ginjafro » Tue Nov 13, 2012 20:09 pm

You could also attach flashing lights to yourself and not the bike, side stepping any legal issues. However, the bloke was still a d1ck.
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby bennett_346 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 20:50 pm

What a fool.

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Postby Kieran_Burns » Tue Nov 13, 2012 22:24 pm

bennett_346 wrote:What a fool.


Now you didn't actually say fool there did you? :lol:
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby The Ors » Tue Nov 13, 2012 22:29 pm

So, did you switch them off?

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Postby bennett_346 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 00:28 am

Kieran_Burns wrote:
bennett_346 wrote:What a fool.


Now you didn't actually say fool there did you? :lol:

Apparently not! :!:

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Postby nicklouse » Wed Nov 14, 2012 02:07 am

flashing lights WERE not legal. so i would say the car diver had not read the Highway code recently.
cant remember when it changed.
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby jimothy78 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 08:28 am

I must say that legallity asside, I think sometimes people need to engage a little common sense; I have seen some folks riding with ultra-bright front lights in flashing mode and aimed at eye-level for oncoming drivers. Might be perfectly legal and whatnot, but it's not going to win you any friends on the road, is it?
(Not aimed at original poster, just a general remark)

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby alfablue » Wed Nov 14, 2012 08:46 am

I think flashing lights are essential when commuting, particularly to alert drivers emerging from roads on the left. When not using a flasher, every such junction is a lottery. With a flasher, invariably they don't pull out. They also alert dozy (or texting) pedestrians that would otherwise step off the kerb infront of you.

I do agree with Jimothy's point above, the flasher needs to be aimed correctly, and not too powerful. In light 8) of this, I am looking for a suitable flasher, perhaps 100 / 120 lumens. I have a Lezyne Femto (only 15 lumens, not enough) and a Fenix L2D (180 Lumens) too much, and some 502b T6 torches (way too much). Ideally I would like a small single AA torch with an efficient emitter but with a modest output and good run time, any suggestions?

Edit: I think I will post the second paragraph on The big LIGHTS thread 2011-2012 as it is probably more appropriate there.

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby zx6man » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:21 am

I have both a flasher and a solid light front and back. May as well have the best of both worlds and more is better when it comes to being seen at night.

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby InkZ » Wed Nov 14, 2012 09:21 am

Doesn't matter if they are legal or not, don't people anything better to do with their time?

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Mouth » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:00 pm

I use flashers purely to save battery
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Chris Bass » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:55 pm

The RVLR now allows a flashing light to be attached to a bike if it
(a) emits a minimum light output of four candela; and,
(b) flashes at an equal and constant rate of between 60 and 240 flashes per minute.
To summarise: a not-too-bright steady pulsing LED is fine – out goes your Nightrider strobe.

depending on how many times per minute your lights flash then they could be illegal!
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Ginjafro » Wed Nov 14, 2012 13:20 pm

All this talk about flashing lights has brought up a "flashing" lights advert banner on this thread. Some look really cool and cheap, brilliant!
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby The Rookie » Wed Nov 14, 2012 14:41 pm

All I've got is a John Lewis ad!

Obviously the driver was out of date, although not legal and being illegal are not the same thing (you always could have a flashing light as long as you had a solid to comply with the RVLR as well).

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Ouija » Wed Nov 14, 2012 14:49 pm

Ginjafro wrote:All this talk about flashing lights has brought up a "flashing" lights advert banner on this thread. Some look really cool and cheap, brilliant!


A man who's obviously never heard of Ad blocking plugins or NoScript.

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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby Headhuunter » Wed Nov 14, 2012 14:53 pm

I wouldn't have even stopped... I don't stop for random motorists flagging me down by the side of the road, they could be anyone and you have to be careful in the badlands of SE London!
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Re: flashing lights - illegal - WTF !

Postby anton1r » Wed Nov 14, 2012 16:08 pm

Not illegal at all in the slightest. But do flashing lights annoy the heck out of anyone else or is that just me?! :)

Also does anyone else find it harder to judge the distance to the flashing lights rather than solid lights?
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